Well i got a F'ed up 107FR

wildstar said:

I know it sucks but I've bought enough guns in my life to have bought new lemons from many of the major manufactures (Colt, S&W, Kimber. . .). I don't like it but it happens.

I had to send two back. Yeah I was annoyed that I had to do it and annoyed that I had to pay but they fixed them in only a few days and now I have two really great AKs. The FSBs look stock, no ugly marks at all. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one.

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I know what you're saying, and I know several people agree with you, but taking that attitude is exactly why these companies don't pursue excellence and continue to turn out product with huge quality issues.

You mention Kimber prominently. I know people, myself included, who have sworn off of Kimber because of their quality issues. Sure, maybe they are selling so many they don't care who has sworn off them. And so round and round it goes. Manufacturers get to keep turning out sloppy product knowing there are legions of people ready to plunk down their money and take a chance they'll "get a good one." I know I did it too, but NO MORE.

I know I'm on a rant here, but if every paying customer out there would just swear off a manufacturer's products until they see a marked improvement in quality and attitude, then maybe we would all be able to demand AND GET a higher standard than is the case now.

Sure, I've bought Arsenal's rifles over the years, and little quality issues have popped up now and again. Up until lately it was nothing more than annoying. But lately it's gotten worse. Between reliability problems with the 106's and sighting problems with the 107's, their issues are almost spiralling out of control.

Case in point: of the three or four SA M7R's I own or have owned, ONE of them had a sighting issue. I chalk that up to an acceptable "mistake" and one that doesn't happen too often. In other words, forgiveable.

But when nearly every person on the internet who buys a 107 can't zero the thing, that is NOT acceptable. Even Arsenal admitted that a huge number of the 107's produced have this problem.

The thing to do is to STOP BUYING their products RIGHT NOW and continue to boycott them until they make some changes. I've said it before, but a public admission of the problem and what steps are being taken to address it would be a good start. Trotsky's idea of a recall would do the same thing.

That's the only way they will get the message. When distributors end up cancelling orders for more, and try to send back what they've got, then the company will sit up and take notice.

Part of me agrees with you Zane, really. The other part of me thinks that since there aren't very many U.S. AK manufactures like Arsenal around, we should work with them to improve their quality so that they can stick around for the long haul. Boycotting them and putting them out of business does us no good. They had a problem, admitted it to me on the phone, and fixed it promptly. It's not my ideal buying experience but worked out in the end; now I am a happy Arsenal owner.

About not paying for shipping, I still don't like that but whatever, I'm not going to loose sleep over it. I forgot about that cost already and have moved on to really enjoy the time at the range with my father learning about AKs. If you want to boycott them go right ahead but I won't.

I have the same feelings about Colt. I sent so many poorly made 1911's back to them that I lost count but they always tried to make it right. I want them to continue to be around and so I will continue to support them. My wife thinks I am crazy for supporting them and maybe I am but I just really don't want to see any more U.S. based firearms manufactures go out of business; Winchester should be a lesson for all of us. If we don't support these manufactures, who will?