There is still a question as to whether or not the VZ's have a barrel extension. Yes, there IS something there... but if it's welded according to BATF specs? It becomes part of the barrel.

Personal note: I LOVE that you excluded Hammer I, too, have been wondering if I could get away with that one - as the VZ contains a STRIKER, and the regulated parts preamble is VERY specific in ruling out all other section definitions

It could work, except for one thing: I can find no industry credible definition for "striker" and "hammer" that point out any technical difference. If we could find one? A sound argument could be made that the 922R definition of "hammer" does not apply to the VZ

 

hammer applies it is referenced in many places as a hammer and it is not part of the firing pin therefore it is not a striker but an in-line hammer and it is listed as hammer in cz manuals so i doubt the atf would let it fly

 

So assuming it has a hammer....how many US parts tdo you need?

 

6 including the muzzle extension

 

For 922r to apply the rifle must have been declared "non-sporting" and banned from import as such.

Can someone point me to the list of "non-sporting" weapons to verify that the VZ-58 is on the list? :razz:

 

For 922r to apply the rifle must have been declared "non-sporting" and banned from import as such.

Can someone point me to the list of "non-sporting" weapons to verify that the VZ-58 is on the list? :razz:

Good point, I would be interested in that list as well.

 

It say Kalashnikov and variants. We all know that the VZ is not a variant, but several publication point it out as one. So they will probably use that documentation to verify their claim.

 

they will not publish a list it will make it too easy if you wish to import stuff they'll give you a yea or nay but since these rifles have many features they look for (short barrel, ability to accept high capacity military magazines, seperate pistol grip, threaded barrel, bayonet lug) and it only takes one they have unquestionably determined this rifle is unimportable under setion 925(d) and therefore subject to section 922r

 

Link to 1989 list
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/wbardwel/public/nfalist/atf_1989_report.txt

 

From the above link:

For purposes of this suspension, assault-type rifles were rifles
which generally met the following criteria:

a. military appearance

b. large magazine capacity

c. semiautomatic version of a machinegun

I think that pretty much covers the VZ-58.

 

There is still a question as to whether or not the VZ's have a barrel extension. Yes, there IS something there... but if it's welded according to BATF specs? It becomes part of the barrel.

Don't get a barrel extension confused with a muzzle attachment. Barrel extensions are on the breech end of the barrel. Most common are barrel extensions on heavy machine guns (like the M2). The barrel screws into a barrel extension, and that is what the armorers use to adjust headspace. Here is a link that details the parts of an M2. Scroll down to see a drawing and description of a barrel extension:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/m296.htm


So no, the VZ-58 doesn't have a barrel extension, it would need a longer muzzle attachment (permanently attached of course) to bring the length of the barrel from boltface to muzzle to 16".

 

There is still a question as to whether or not the VZ's have a barrel extension. Yes, there IS something there... but if it's welded according to BATF specs? It becomes part of the barrel.

Don't get a barrel extension confused with a muzzle attachment. Barrel extensions are on the breech end of the barrel. Most common are barrel extensions on heavy machine guns (like the M2). The barrel screws into a barrel extension, and that is what the armorers use to adjust headspace. Here is a link that details the parts of an M2. Scroll down to see a drawing and description of a barrel extension:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/m296.htm


So no, the VZ-58 doesn't have a barrel extension, it would need a longer muzzle attachment (permanently attached of course) to bring the length of the barrel from boltface to muzzle to 16".

Good post, I think that has been misapplied for too long..

 

My appologies. I foolishly thought "barrel extension" refered to an extension of the barrel.

 

nobody's fault except the people who made the rules and didn't clarify them....but I guess that's the way they like it ..

 

My appologies. I foolishly thought "barrel extension" refered to an extension of the barrel.

LOL, it does, just on the 'other' end. :goof:

 

now if we could just get the muzzle nut question settled...