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Here are some threads to review that will answer many of your questions:Spooky130 said:Great write-up! I've trained with Vickers once (basic pistol) and this seems to follow his mindset. When he trains the AK does he still stress accuracy? What does he believe the AK is capable accuracy wise? What does he say about the 5.45 vs. the 7.62? Any opinions on the 5.56 guns out there now?
I took Pat Rogers AK class and it really was a mirror image of his Carbine Operator's Class. He did not categorize the two different types of reloads (using your thumb to engage the mag release vs. using the new mag for an ER). He also let you determine if reaching under the gun or over was the best method to run the charging handle.
What modifications does LAV think are beneficial to the AK platform? In the class with Pat Rogers he thought upgraded sights (bigger rear notch accomplished with a file and possibly an Ashley front sight) and a modified safety (Krebs, Blackjack, 550 cord) were worth the time to have. I also used a VCAS with the snap fron a Bulgarian sling and it worked great as a useful sling.
Another difference between the two is the zero. Rogers teaches to zero with the rear sight set on 2 versus LAV teaching it set on one. I also think that LAV's "press check" is a great technique. And reloading while moving with an AK is much more difficult than with an AR due to the mechanics used to rock the mag in.
Thanks for the input Rob. This thread isn't meant to be a soapbox for me on "The Way" so if you have anything specifically you'd like to add and/or refute please do so. I will be happy (and this applies to everyone) to try and clarify anything I write here that is not clear.rob_s said:I do the same press check that thekatar does.
Earlier this year I took a Randy Cain 2-day AK class. It was great in part because everyone in the class had trained with Randy and others before, and we all knew each other. As such, it became as much of a think-tank or brain-trust as we talked about different techniques we had been exposed to or developed on our own.
Randy had us all try the reach-over vs. the reach-under, the "bash the mag out" vs. releasing it with the thumb, etc. It was a great chance to get exposed to all manner of techniques that we could all take home and figure out for ourselves.
I've been running the AK at matches and drills since then and since we start all stages safety-on I do the same thing that thekatar advocates. I hook the handle with my social finger, and stick the booger-picker in the ejection port to feel for the round.