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I can't recall exactly what I was doing, but most likely I was headed topside to smoke while underway. I don't know the guys name but he stopped me and asked, "How do we breath out here?". The poor bastard must've saw the confused look on my face and he instantly chimed in, "Well there ain't no trees out here on the ocean". I couldn't believe my fucking ears. This guy was a STG2, so it's not like he was sleep deprived, or out of his mind. I honestly didn't know what to say. I just briefly stopped, laughed, and kept it moving. The guy eventually got kicked out for alcohol related incidents, surprise surprise. I'm certain he was not under the influence at the time of question.
 

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Boot camp 1990. USMC MCRD San Diego. I am from Oklahoma, guy from Michigan asked if we took a horse and wagon to school.
 

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Boot camp 1990. USMC MCRD San Diego. I am from Oklahoma, guy from Michigan asked if we took a horse and wagon to school.
Lol but he was from Oklahoma!! The military sure does have some colorful people in it.
 

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I can't recall exactly what I was doing, but most likely I was headed topside to smoke while underway. I don't know the guys name but he stopped me and asked, "How do we breath out here?". The poor bastard must've saw the confused look on my face and he instantly chimed in, "Well there ain't no trees out here on the ocean". I couldn't believe my fucking ears. This guy was a STG2, so it's not like he was sleep deprived, or out of his mind. I honestly didn't know what to say. I just briefly stopped, laughed, and kept it moving. The guy eventually got kicked out for alcohol related incidents, surprise surprise. I'm certain he was not under the influence at the time of question.
If you were on a submarine that would make sense.
 

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I can't single out one but I'm still trying to put 5 years worth behind me. All I can say is within the Army idiocy and mediocrity permeate. I met a lot of wise folks but they were few and far between and were never fully in charge of anything (Sr NCOs). Sadly I think our military just attracts these people on way or another, recruiters promising free money and a plane ticket out of town is just how it works.
 
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It was so long age I don't remember .
 

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Not military but recently the new Director of DPW asked me what we did with the electricity after the generators went off line and also where the brakes were.

For reference they are stationary V16 locomotive GE generators that when running produce 4160V 2Megs each X 4.

This guy is in charge and dumber than a bag of hammers.
 

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Not military but recently the new Director of DPW asked me what we did with the electricity after the generators went off line and also where the brakes were.

For reference they are stationary V16 locomotive GE generators that when running produce 4160V 2Megs each X 4.

This guy is in charge and dumber than a bag of hammers.
Sounds like DPW management to me all right. If brown comes out when the man sneezes then you have a clue as to how he's in the position.
 
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I can't single out one but I'm still trying to put 5 years worth behind me. All I can say is within the Army idiocy and mediocrity permeate. I met a lot of wise folks but they were few and far between and were never fully in charge of anything (Sr NCOs). Sadly I think our military just attracts these people on way or another, recruiters promising free money and a plane ticket out of town is just how it works.
I left active and currently reside in the reserves. The reserves blows in a lot of ways, but all the shitbags and retards you would find in active don't exist for the most part. I don't like being in the reserves but the majority of people seem to be pretty decent.
 

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Basic training 1985, had a guy ask where I was from. Told him Spokane Washington. He relies "you guys are still fighting the indians"!
 

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All I can say is within the Army idiocy and mediocrity permeate. I met a lot of wise folks but they were few and far between and were never fully in charge of anything (Sr NCOs). Sadly I think our military just attracts these people on way or another, recruiters promising free money and a plane ticket out of town is just how it works.
Spot on. All that, and the fact that the Army prides itself on fucking it's people over at every chance. The other branches don't seem to be near as bad. If I could do it all over again I'd've joined the Coast Guard.
 

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Spot on. All that, and the fact that the Army prides itself on fucking it's people over at every chance. The other branches don't seem to be near as bad. If I could do it all over again I'd've joined the Coast Guard.
The Army was my third choice, not by choice.
 

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The Navy is famous for eating its own, in my experience anything that went wrong the officers looked for an enlisted scape goat.

It seemed it was the only thing they knew how to do.
 

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The Navy is famous for eating its own, in my experience anything that went wrong the officers looked for an enlisted scape goat.

It seemed it was the only thing they knew how to do.
In my experience, I would say that a lot of any senior position does this, it isn't just the officers. People are people, and a piece of fabric does not make the man. Senior enlisted can be some of the absolute worst to deal with because of such a high slave mentality. Some seem to be always looking for a way to throw one of their own under the bus. They think it makes them look like a good leader.

I really think that most of this stems from the need for preservation. These types of people really don't have the motivation to do anything at all, and they are trapped in the military, which is a career they don't necessarily want. They also need to keep collecting their welfare check. You gotta pay the hookers and keep yourself drunk somehow. Plus, that fat bitch at home who doesn't work, with the three kids you hate has to eat too.
 

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From what I can see, Navy heads are constantly rolling, and these are upper echelon “O” types. We’ve had a slew of mishaps and collisions over the past few years and it seems they waste no time relieving skippers and even admirals. Recently one or two female executive level Navy O’s were even relieved for lack of confidence which is something that would be difficult to do in the Army with it’s big gender push these last coinciding years. Don’t even get me STARTED on military gender politics.

When I got back from Ranger school as an E-4 we were treated as NCOs, fulfilled NCO rolls, and were quickly pipelined to Buck Sergeant. During this time we were held 100% accountable for the actions and performance of our subordinates. If they were fucked up, we were fucked up, and we would pay a heavy price, sometimes from the 1SG himself. It worked. Specialists and SGTs in my unit were some hard working, hard charging motherfuckers. IMO we epitomized what a leader should be. It seemed once you got into the E-6 community this attitude started to wane and the blame game only got worse as you went up the ranks. Platoon SGTs and up would tend to avoid taking responsibility for their failures and go to great lengths to put it on one or more their men. We weren’t without our rock stars at that level all the way up to the CSM, but by and large they were useless buddy fuckers.
 

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We weren’t without our rock stars at that level all the way up to the CSM, but by and large they were useless buddy fuckers.
This. The Legions of Pax Americana are infected with a feckless Garrison-mentality and are in need of a serious enema.

Unfortunately, that wake up call won't happen until after TASK FORCE SMITH v.2 happens.
 
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