[davehal9000]

A fellow forum member sent these to me from across the mountains of Afghanistan. He's got them labeled as Paki made weapons. Frankly I know nothing about the original AK-47s, so I'd be the last person to argue. I do find interesting the fine stampings, which are similar to those on other Soviet made weapons. They're a detail you expect from a good builder like Ted Marshall or Mario at POHF, but would you expect that from the Khyber Pass? Should make for some interesting conversation... Anyway, enjoy!

 

[AKFAN]

Thanks for the pics. Those are Pakistani jobs.

 

[davehal9000]

Every week I look through the mountain of various old rifles sold at the bazaar. A friend of mine, a serious, legitimate gun collector, probably sent home thirty or more rifles in the time he was here. While many on the internet claim every rifle sold here is a Khyber Pass fake, it's a flat out lie.

Tom commented that there are five types of rifles here;

1. Complete, 100% original
2. Original, with replacement parts off similar rifles (MkIII Enfield parts on a MK II)
3. Original, with Khyber Pass shop (or home made) parts for function
4. Originals, restamped multiple times, including Khyber restamps hoping to improve resale value
5. Fakes made of water pipe and pallet dunnage

Where do these fall?

 

[brownstown]

Great pics. Thanks so much for sharing. This is why I check into the forums. Great stuff. Please keep up the good work and be safe. Your pics and info are very valueable to our hobby. Thank you.

 

[Tyrvidar]

good stuff, thanks

 

[AKFAN]

Every week I look through the mountain of various old rifles sold at the bazaar. A friend of mine, a serious, legitimate gun collector, probably sent home thirty or more rifles in the time he was here. While many on the internet claim every rifle sold here is a Khyber Pass fake, it's a flat out lie.

Tom commented that there are five types of rifles here;

1. Complete, 100% original
2. Original, with replacement parts off similar rifles (MkIII Enfield parts on a MK II)
3. Original, with Khyber Pass shop (or home made) parts for function
4. Originals, restamped multiple times, including Khyber restamps hoping to improve resale value
5. Fakes made of water pipe and pallet dunnage

Where do these fall?

Looking at these pics these would fall under "fakes". Maybe they used some original parts like the selector lever. Looking at the crude metal work its pretty easy to tell it's a Paki job. The markings on the sight leaf are wrong along with the worksmanship being crude. There are many other things that give away that these are not factory Type 3 rifles. It's a nice attempt but if you know what to look for it's pretty easy to tell apart. The inspector proof-marks are also a nice touch but also wrong. There have been other members that have run across these while serving in Afghanistan. One member here also posted pics of the Paki's trying to clone an AKM . The receiver was milled and made too look like a stamped receiver (dimple, rivets ect..) I would not feel safe firing these rifles, I think they are wallhangers at best.
Thanks again for the pics and THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SIR!

 

[modern_pirate]

Didn't Rusted Ace post similar (or the same) pictures earlier this year?

M_P

 

[Blanco_Diablo]

Yeah, he sent me the same pics. Those are Paki jobs. he said they were totally unsafe and he will not shoot them. Very rusty and just messed up.