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Should i stay away from the SLR-107FR?

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I keep hearing pretty bad things about them, the canted FSB the worst, And well the cheap finish they use. Should i just avoid the 107's in general? Im having a really hard time finding a good ak to buy, because i was looking at henderson, but they're romy parts kits now i hear. I dont want a WASR, was looking at the Yugo's but i hear they arent that good with the US barrels.

What do i do? I've always heard arsenal was the best, now i hear they're going down in quality. Help!
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The canted front sights were an issue early on that has been fixed.

The finish is the standard Bulgarian military finish and won't stand up to harsh chemical cleaners like Shooter's Choice or if you use an aerosol brake or carbureator cleaner. Stick with something like CLP or Ballistol, and no worries.
As one of the fixes to the canted sight issue, Arsenal was supposed to have started including a test target with each rifle. I'd ask to see the test target before purchase.

If the rifle was shipped before they started including the test targets, then the 107's with the muzzle brake (instead of the flash hider) probably came from a batch different from the bad batch. The problem is not in Bulgaria; it's the "unbanning" being done in Las Vegas that caused the canted sight issue, if I'm not mistaken.

An SLR107FR with no test target and a flash hider instead of the AK103 brake is to be avoided.
These are great rifles, all issues are now fixed.
And if you buy one of the early ones, Arsenal will fix it for free.
stoyan79 said:
These are great rifles, all issues are now fixed.
And if you buy one of the early ones, Arsenal will fix it for free.
After you pay to ship it back to them...
So i shouldnt have to worry buying one then? I was just worried about the QC going down, would you say they're on par with how they used to be now?
Slimjim said:
So i shouldnt have to worry buying one then? I was just worried about the QC going down, would you say they're on par with how they used to be now?
If with "on par with how they used to be" you mean back in the day when you could still get a milled Arsenal for under $500, then no. If you mean back on par with a rifle that will hit what it is aimed at, has certain features which no other manufacturer in the US offers and which is backed up by a company which promises to resolve any issues.... then yes.
:wink:
But really, shouldnt you be looking at a 74?
I've got a 107F and there is no issue with cant...either with the FSB or gas block. Mine came with the flash suppressor, but I already had one of K-VAR's new style 74 brakes for .30 caliber AKs that I've placed on the rifle.
Slimjim said:
So i shouldnt have to worry buying one then? I was just worried about the QC going down, would you say they're on par with how they used to be now?

The QC problems all seem to stem from what goes on in Las Vegas. The overall Bulgarian workmanship on the 107's I've observed seems to be top-notch. Since the 107's are all Bulgarian except the compliance parts and the unbanning that is done in Vegas, they can't really compare to the mostly US-made and assembled milled rifles.

The positive points of the SLR107's, at least the ones I've observed are:

1) Perfect riveting. The Bulgarians are experts at quality riveting, I've decided. I've only ever seen ONE bad rivet on ONE rifle, and that was a tiny split at the very edge of a trigger guard rivet. In other words: no big deal.

2) The gas tube latch on my 107 is so tight you need the slot on the cleaning kit tube to move it. That's how they all should be. I've heard other people make the same comment, so it's not just my rifle.

3) My 107 seems to be more accurate than a lot of other AK's I've shot. I'm not sure why this is.

4) The finish on my SLR107 seems to be WAY tougher than the squid ink paint of the 105's. I'm of the opinion that Arsenal completely refinishes the 107's after unbanning them, but I could be wrong. Maybe I've just gotten lucky with how tough my finish is.

5) The folding stock is very comfortable to use, and locks up solid. It's potentially the best folding stock on the market.

Negatives

1) While we're talking about the folding stock, I've heard ONE report from my local FFL that a customer managed to crack his polymer folding stock by dropping the rifle on the butt from about calf high. I wasn't there, but I have no reason to doubt my dealer's word. Supposedly he witnessed the incident. You can easily replace the polymer stock with the steel triangle folder if you replace one more component with a US-made part (muzzle brake is easiest).

2) A lot of people don't like the two-stage trigger as it comes from the factory. Some people love it.

3) There are a couple of incidents of the Metal Injection Molded (MIM) hammers shattering in the milled rifles. So far there are no reports of similar problems in the stamped rifles, and the hammer that came with my 107 is clearly a slight redesign from the hammers that came in my SA M7R's. The FCG is easily replaced with another brand if you like.

5) The canted sight issue, although mostly in the past now, is going to haunt these rifles for some time to come. At least I've not heard of the same reliability problems as with the 106's. I believe I've read ONE thread on ONE forum where someone had a couple of jams with a 107. (Mine has been 100% but occasionally ejects brass cases a shorter distance than might be considered "normal" for steel cases).

Ultimately, you pays yer money and you takes yer chances, but I think maybe Arsenal has gotten the message on these rifles and they are mostly okay now.
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Slimjim said:
I keep hearing pretty bad things about them, the canted FSB the worst, And well the cheap finish they use. Should i just avoid the 107's in general? Im having a really hard time finding a good ak to buy, because i was looking at henderson, but they're romy parts kits now i hear. I dont want a WASR, was looking at the Yugo's but i hear they arent that good with the US barrels.

What do i do? I've always heard arsenal was the best, now i hear they're going down in quality. Help!
I was in the same boat. Because of all the issues, I wasn't going to buy. After reading positive reviews later on, I ordered two of them. VERY pleased that I did. Overall, both were as prefect as can be, except for the lousy finish. Both came with the AK74 style brake, which I replaced with US made Bulgarian flash hiders (From DPHARMS). Both have serial numbers above 1000. I also installed Bulgarian triangle stock's, and upgraded to double hook G2 FCG's.
well i have to say my 1st impressions of my slr105 are not that great BUT i love 5.45 and got a great price on it so im sure in some time it will grow on me. the trigger group was put in incorrectly, no biggie as i was going to put a g2 in there anyway as soon as i figure out how to get that trigger pin out w/o scratching the whole receiver to shreds. that brings me to the receiver. i read a ton before getting this rifle and the concensus from users as well as arsenal was to keep the cleaners/preservers to clp/breakfree. thats what i primarily use to clean the receiver/protect. however my paint is already flaking off just undere the dust cover and inside the receiver. have only put a few rds thru it b/c of the trigger not resetting issue. this shouldnt be happeneing (or at least it hasnt happened on any other rifle i ownand i beat them up pretty badly) i do not intend to baby this rifle and will probably abuse the bejesus out of it so i didnt really expect the finish to be purtty but at least somewhat durable....Now, sorry to go OT a bit here but i have been considering a 107fr for quite some time. have read that the sifght issue was resolved in may and rifles shipped after that are g2g...i think my problem now is that they were considerably cheaper in the beginning of may-i think their prices jumped 20% last month- so either i buck up extra duccats for a straight canted rifle or roll the dice and hope to get lucky on old , non price increased stock from someone. i may do the latter , worse case is that i spend the $20 shipping to get it repaired ...or i just get a 107CR and turn it into an SBR....i will buy another arsenal though
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I just ordered a "Sand" SLR-107FR, but cant seem to find pictures of one on the internet. I really hope i have no problems with it :)

Anyone have pics of one?

What finish are they putting on the Sand colored ones?
That tan is awfully light colored.......wrap some white tape around the black and you'd have an arctic rifle to boot.
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Templar said:
That tan is awfully light colored.......wrap some white tape around the black and you'd have an arctic rifle to boot.

In some pics that people have posted it actually looks....PINK! :eek:




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Holy Moses, that does look pink... :lol:
Could be how the light is reflecting off the stock.

Could also be a light shade of pink.....the laptop monitor I'm on kind of sucketh.....
Templar said:
Could be how the light is reflecting off the stock.

I thought that too...Could be the photographic resolution too. How many pics have I had to fix for color on other pic threads? Lots. :neutral:

I'm searching some other sites (like GunBroker) that I know posted pics...and some of them looked kinda pink too.

I went ahead and posted the pics because I'm thinkin' I don't want a rifle that looks pink even if it is the lighting conditions. :neutral:

Just my cup o' tea.
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Zane Zackerly said:
Templar said:
That tan is awfully light colored.......wrap some white tape around the black and you'd have an arctic rifle to boot.

In some pics that people have posted it actually looks....PINK! :eek:




Is that the 107FRuit model? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cheers
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Here are some more pics off Gun Broker.

For the sake of objectivity, I copied every pic (that didn't look like a duplicate) with a tan stock.

The first two pics of the SLR106 look okay, but the collage pic still makes the stock look pink IMHO.

I'm thinking a nice green camo job would fool the eye into adding some "yellow" values to that desert tan, but as is I don't care for the look of that stock at all. :neutral:




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