[Robpiat]

On Pawn stars the other night, they had a vintage or replica flintlock shorty. Are they unregulated by the NFA? Anywhere to get one? Looked like fun.

 

[ambivolent]

On Pawn stars the other night, they had a vintage or replica flintlock shorty. Are they unregulated by the NFA? Anywhere to get one? Looked like fun.

From what I understand is muzzle loading blackpowder shotguns aren't subject to NFA laws but they may be restricted by your local laws

 

[RomG78]

muzzle loaders are not regulated by the N.F.A.

 

[Q-gunner2]

muzzle loaders are not regulated by the N.F.A.

+1. Not "modern firearms".


I've thought about getting a black powder double barrel 12 gauge, and cutting it to 14" for a coach-style gun, but the initial gun is so expensive it isn't really worth it.

 

[stackscustominc]

On Pawn stars the other night, they had a vintage or replica flintlock shorty. Are they unregulated by the NFA? Anywhere to get one? Looked like fun.

From what I understand is muzzle loading blackpowder shotguns aren't subject to NFA laws but they may be restricted by your local laws

unfortunatly being that illinois is a communist/socialist hell hole black powder guns are subject to all the same restrictions as regular firearms here. so if you can have short barrel black powder guns dont hesitate to get one if you can

 

[Fearless 51]

In most cases any front stuffing firearm is exempt...front stuffing shotguns are pretty damned cool, reloading takes quite a bit of time so for hunting purposes they leave much to be desired. Old timers used to drop a roll of nickels down each barrel over the wad with another wad packed down to hold it all together...bet them sumbitches made a wicked sound as they roared by.

 

[matt74]

Ive had my eye on one of these for quite some time, no cutting required

http://www.cabelas.com/p-0058399.shtml

 

[Norinco QBZ-95]

Yes, definitely get a howdah pistol.

 

[Robpiat]

That's a little rich for me. Is there an <$300 option?

 

[Norinco QBZ-95]

That's a little rich for me. Is there an <$300 option?

Buy a military surplus Enfield, cut it down and make a new stock for it.

 

[Sidecarnutz]

If you want a great book on black powder shooting look for a copy of Lyman's Black Powder Handbook. Originally published back in the 70's.
Covers history, hunting, black powder manufacturing, use and care of shotguns, pistols and rifles/muskets as well as much ballistic data.
I got a old copy of EBay and it is a great read! I don't know if their current "2nd Edition" adds to or eliminates info. Havn't seen a copy of that one. I got the first edition. Lottsa great info in it and very little Lawyer stuff like modern manuals.

 

[Fireman]

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PDBC.SHTML

Made in India, :neutral:

The folks at Middlesex are good folks, give them a call. They can give some more info.

 

[Q-gunner2]

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PDBC.SHTML

Made in India, :neutral:

The folks at Middlesex are good folks, give them a call. They can give some more info.

Smooth bore so looks like it will work... 20 gauge is around .58", 12 gauge is .70/71", so at .62 I am guessing that is around a 17/16 gauge?


Just wish it had longer barrels, like 12-14".

 

[Sidecarnutz]

I like this one even better!
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PDBF.SHTML

I bought my first BP rifle today. So I am really digging this stuff! (Got an old Lyman Great Plains rifle in 50 cal. Percussion. Walnut stock. Iron hardware. I wanted a flintlock, but I was offered a deal on this I couldn't refuse. The minor repairs it needed only took me an hour!)

I've been studying up on Black Powder for the past month. Fascinating stuff for an old history buff like me.

 

[Norinco QBZ-95]

I like this one even better!
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PDBF.SHTML

I bought my first BP rifle today. So I am really digging this stuff! (Got an old Lyman Great Plains rifle in 50 cal. Percussion. Walnut stock. Iron hardware. I wanted a flintlock, but I was offered a deal on this I couldn't refuse. The minor repairs it needed only took me an hour!)

I've been studying up on Black Powder for the past month. Fascinating stuff for an old history buff like me.

You need a cap and ball revolver.

 

[Sidecarnutz]

Yeah, I am thinking a Traditions Plains Hunter cap & ball pistol in .45 cal would be cool. I'd want a kit though. :grin:

 

[Norinco QBZ-95]

Yeah, I am thinking a Traditions Plains Hunter cap & ball pistol in .45 cal would be cool. I'd want a kit though. :grin:

I meant revolver.

 

[Sidecarnutz]

Yeah, I am thinking a Traditions Plains Hunter cap & ball pistol in .45 cal would be cool. I'd want a kit though. :grin:

I meant revolver.

A six shooter? Arrg! What kinda modern nonsense is that? :grin:
Picked up this kit over at Bass Pro in Hampton VA today. These are old stock judging from the really deteriorated packaging. But a bargain price at $150.

Traditions web site info:
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop ... de=KP51002

Well over $100 below retail. Not even listed on the Bass Pro web site.
I'll have a lot of fun building it. Perfect match to go with that Plains Rifle.

Now I'll have a big decision to make. Power horn or powder flask? Can't decide which would be better to use.

 

[Ranger-Medic]

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PDBC.SHTML

Made in India, :neutral:

The folks at Middlesex are good folks, give them a call. They can give some more info.

Smooth bore so looks like it will work... 20 gauge is around .58", 12 gauge is .70/71", so at .62 I am guessing that is around a 17/16 gauge?


Just wish it had longer barrels, like 12-14".

20 gauge is .62 caliber, 16 gauge is .66 caliber and 12 gauge is .73 caliber...

.58 caliber is equivalent to 24 gauge