Are you sure about that? I've been looking for a reference, but can't find one at the moment. I believe if the gun enters commerce, it is supposed to have the excise tax paid.ACMcom said:The serial number on the trunnion is the number for the rifle. If you transfer it, you must put the name of the maker and the city and state where it was made on the receiver.
Yep that is a very good point, thanks for throwing that in there. Sometimes we forget that we also have to abide by local and state laws as well, not just federalblkbd said:Yes the ATF says that you don't need one but your local goverment may say other wise SO CHECK YOUR LOCAL LAWS! Sorry to throw a wrench in the works but better safe than sorry.
Care to post some proof about that? Like a letter from the ATF stating that.ACMcom said:Remember that once you have attached the trunnion to the bent flat or finished bent blank the firearm now has a serial number as suggested by the alphabet soup boys.
eodinert said:Are you sure about that? I've been looking for a reference, but can't find one at the moment. I believe if the gun enters commerce, it is supposed to have the excise tax paid.ACMcom said:The serial number on the trunnion is the number for the rifle. If you transfer it, you must put the name of the maker and the city and state where it was made on the receiver.
ATF says you cannot make a gun with the intent to sell it without being a licensed manufacturer. Ingraving it might look like intent. What if you decide to sell it after you build it? Who knows, but don't take it too casually. It might be big problems.
If you buy a receiver, and install it on a used trunnion with a serial number on it, the serial number is the number on the receiver, not the trunnion.
If you make a receiver, and install it on a used trunnion with a serial number on it, people will assume that the serial number is stamped on the trunnion, but I believe the ATFs definition of a serial number is a number that tax was paid on (and records are kept of), by a manufacturer..
I have seen guns at shows that were on 'U bend it' flats... and no markings other than on the trunnion.
Anybody have some links?
..and don't forget about your state and local laws. Some states don't like home built guns (Oregon, California...)
Trunnion has nothing to do with serial number. It is solely the receiver that is comcerned. If it were, there would be confusion as to which serial number to use on a kit built with a 100% rec, since trunnion AND receiver would have a serial number.Remember that once you have attached the trunnion to the bent flat or finished bent blank the firearm now has a serial number as suggested by the alphabet soup boys.