My ROMACII doesn't have any trigger slap. The cheapest and easiest way to thread is with a JMAC threaded adapter if you are wanting to do a AIMS74 clone. Good shooting accurate rifle.

 

What year is your SAR2?

 

This one has a wood butt stock, not the side folder usually seen.

 

Mines a ROMAC2 (similar) and its a 97. It came with a thumbhole stock and the SAR2 had a regular stock.

 

Century replaced the trigger group, gas piston and pistol grip.

It was a "ban era" rifle, so came with a fixed solid wood stock.

 

I don't have a SAR-2 (been wanting one myself) but I have a SAR-1, sold another one a little while ago, and have one still in the original box on the way.

SAR rifles have a shellacked hardwood stock - it' probably the original finish (which can sometimes look thick, dark, and murky), so leave it alone.

Any 5.45 mag should work - Bakelite, poly, and steel. My only 5.45 rifle right now is an unconverted Saiga, and I like to use the Polish steel Tantal mags with it.

These rifles had their original Romanian semi-auto trigger group replaced with a Century Arms made one - some have slap, some don't. I like everything original factory production on my AK's, so I replace the Century Arms trigger parts with correct original Romanian. The grip on them is a Century Arms made black plastic/polymer item, so being a fanatical obsessive AK Nazi Purist I put original Romanian grips back on mine - either Bakelite or Romanian black poly.

$700 isn't a bad price when you consider these are basically a semi-auto version of a Romanian military AK with a receiver that has the mag well "dimples" and were imported as double stack rifles, not single stack that was then opened up to double stack like the WASR. Actually, considering how scarce 5.45 SAR-2 rifles are and how long the rifle has been out of production, it'a a pretty good price if the rifle is original and un-dicked with.

The first photo below is one of my SAR-1 rifles with one of the SOC Contractor Afghanistan & Iraq issued WASR's. The second photo is the SAR-1, the SOC WASR, a WASR with a nice original finish Romanian stock set with "dong" grip, and a WASR underfolder.

 

Except for the CIA compliance parts, this one looks unmessed with. If I get it,I will try to post pics. Thanks for all replies! This was a big help!

 

The SAR-2 as well as -3 do not have threaded barrels because the Romanian AK-74s had the threads as part of the front sight base. They were 22mm threads which met the so-called sporting purpose clause of the new AT and unconstitutional F regulations of the ban-era rifles. ATF actually published a letter to Century that since there were no flash hiders made to 22mm the threads were acceptable. Unfortunately Century in their desire to make ATF happy decided to remove them.

To be authentic, you should try to find the correct Romanian threaded sight base and special AK-74 style brake to fit. Sorry for not remembering where they are currently available but I know either someone will soon help you or you might get lucky with a search and find the location.

The SAR-2 was and remains one of the nicest AK shooters I own. Because of the soft shooting nature of the 5.45x39 added with the AK-74 style brake which is excellent at reducing felt recoil, the SAR-2 with the brake installed has almost no felt recoil, making it an excellent shooter for small people or someone just getting into military style rifle shooting, or anyone new to the sport for that matter.

 

Those 22mm FSB are normally $200-$250 if you're lucky enough to find one. JMAC apparently doesn't make the adapter any longer. It's been OOS for something like a year. You could make one or have one made, or shell out the coin if you want an 'accurate' Romay AK74 clone. If you just want a reliable shooter (which the SAR is), and want to add a muzzle device, pretty sure most are able to be threaded 14mm LH. I've heard of some that were too small, but they can be threaded 1/-28 RH.

 

I've heard of people using a Bulgarian FSB and muzzle break.

 

My SAR2 2003 manufacture picked up in 2004 how she looks now, EG folding stock, EG bolt carrier, US piston, ZVN 64 nite sights and US flash hider-not correct but is light, small and actually reduces the flash over the correct 74 pattern break

 

Awesome! Thanks again, guys!

 

Here's the Romanian FSB if needed for reference.....best of luck on your purchase.

 

I looked at it again today and noticed the bayonet lug has been filed down. As I wanted to add a bayonet, that is a deal breaker for me! Ugh!

 

Properly the bayo on the SAR-2 would lock onto the lug under the front sight base/brake assembly.

 

Keep us posted. I just got one myself. They have been selling for around $700 on GB and Armslist. Best of luck w/the FSB. They have been selling for $160-325!!
Maybe we can get together and petition JMAC (?) to make another run of his adapters for us.
While on the subject, does anyone have an ID on the Russian FSB? There are some of them available. 24mm, but would "look" right.
After looking at the ones above, I'm tempted to just thread mine. I wanted to use a Fighter Brake from Definitive Arms, but the bird cage looks clean, and a bajillion M16s can't be all wrong.

 

Did these all come w/a thumb hole stock, then? A-la Maadi/Mac90? Mine came w/a Bump Fire stock on it, along w/the residue from a brick or two of Brown Bear from the You Tube shoot.
I agree, don't let the lack of bayo lug kill the trade. Switching the FSB will fix that anyway.
Marcus, et al, do you feel there is collector value in these at all? Or should we leave them in original trim just cuz?
Thanks

 

They were sold to those of us who shall not be infringed with the original Romanian stock and handguards. The Romanian pistol grip was replaced with a USA made one from Century to satisfy the sporting purpose clause of the new ATF second amendment.

 

No, they came with a standard beech hardwood stock and a Century Arms black poly pistol grip, not a butt hole stock.

Because of the way the import laws were at the time, they were imported as "barreled receivers" with the stock removed from the rifle but in the box with it. This way they didn't need the SVD style stock that came on the WUM, Romak, and very early WASR rifles, and didn't have to be imported as a single stack magazine rifle like the WASR which was then opened up to standard double stack here.

Once Century received them, they put the stocks back on and added their pistol grip. They also replaced the semi-auto Romanian trigger group with a lower quality one of their own manufacture, many of which were infamous for the painful trigger slap they caused. So other than the ground bayonet lug, no muzzle threads, Century grip and trigger group, and I believe US gas piston (I'll have to check on that one), these are a semi-auto version of a standard Romanian military issue AKM of the period.

Get a nice Romanian Bakelite grip and a Romanian AKM trigger group, and these can be easily restored back to correct original Romanian military AKM configuration.

Nice original, un-dicked with SAR series rifles are very desirable and collectable, and are steadily increasing in collectability, collector demand, and value. Putting a gas block with the bayonet lug intact on one or carefully welding and reshaping the lug on the rifle, and threading the barrel or adding a Romanian front sight and muzzle device assembly on a SAR-2 won't detract from value or collectability, at long as it is done well and carefully. Since they are a standard AKM rifle, the stock set can be changed out for other stuff like Romanian, Polish, or Russian laminate, side folders, black or plum poly, "tactical" crap, etc. without damage or modification to the rifle.

The original stock and handguards are rather scarce and sought-after, thus have some value, and should not be refinished or discarded if present.

 

Is the Romanian 7.62 trigger group the same as 5.45?

 

Yes, the 5.45 and 7.62 WASR and SAR rifles would have used the same semi-auto trigger groups. Trigger parts from a standard Romanian military AKM will work too.






I have a few original Romanian Bakelite and Romanian black poly grips for sale if anyone wants to replace the Century Arms black poly grip on a SAR or WASR with a real Romanian made grip, and some Romanian semi-auto trigger groups also.

http://www.theakforum.net/forums/35-want-sell-ak-parts-accessories/200297-ak-stocks-handguards-grips-russian-bulgarian-romanian-polish-u-s-plum.html

 

Do 'standard' AK-74 mags work with the SAR2?

 

Yes

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Here she is, guys! Waddya think?

 

Here she is, guys! Waddya think? View attachment 81673 View attachment 81681 View attachment 81689 View attachment 81697

You did really good! Nice to see an unmolested SAR.

 

Also, Got a Romanian grip coming next week.

 

Nice! That mag looks like a standard European AK-74 mag, good! The wood also looks original Romanian SAR-2 as they shipped.

Nice rifle, ENJOY!!!!!

 

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Sweet! It even still has the correct original Romanian green nylon web sling that these came with.

 

Very nice! Much nicer than the one I purchased.
Thanks Marcus for all the info. We do appreciate the answers w/o the attitude we get from some others.