Upon reflection, I believe that you are right.JOHNO said:I believe its hot air,if anything,they'll improve the 7.62x39.
One of the 9x19mm rounds they developed is +P+ 7N31, has a exposed steel core, 65 gr bullet, going 1967 fps. For use against kevlar helmets and body armor.Templar said:Yes, the Russains just adopted a pistol in 9x19mm as their new service pistol.
The US or Nato for that matter is not looking to replace the 5.56 with the 6.8 or 6.5 for the same reasons Templar listed the russian won't replace the 5.45 AK74s. That was alot of clever marketing done by those who "developed" the round. I remember the same rumors were being said about "Special Ops" changing over to the 6.8 round over thier current AR 5.56 platform rifles.Xenogy said:I read an article on the new Russian/Chineese pistol being developed. I think it was in SGN several months back. From what I remember it fires a 5.8mm round and the barrel will be swapable to fire 9x19. The 5.8mm I assume is following the same idea as the FN five seven round. From pictures of the Chineese testing it looked like the 5.8mm bullet performed like the 5.45x39. The other side of the testing medium looked like the bullet had exited sideways. The 5.8 would be used against armored troops and could be converted to 9x19 for unarmored troops.
I also heard the rumors of them going to .223. Right now the US/NATO is looking to exchange the .223 possibly for a 6.8 or 6.5. I think Russia will see that and try to improve the 7.62x39 round instead of going to .223. By improving I think they'll keep the same casing and go with a 90-110gr .311 bullet or if they can afford it neck down the casing and go with a slimmer bullet. The 6.5 grendel would be perfect for them. So my guess would be if they switch to a new round it will look very similar to the 6.5 grendel. That is if they can afford it. If not then I think we'll see lighter weight 7.62x39s.
freerangeYODA said:i'm not sure friendly or unfriendly applies .
as far as i'm concerned , " what the hell are you talking about" is a legitimate question . sometimes real men are gruff . no problem here . answer given .
what i consider illegitimate is when some bozo tells me i'm full of BS when in fact he doesnt even understand whats being discussed . generally they have some continuously evolving argument that has to do with a deer they or their uncle shot , once , a while back or a box of boolets they once had or reloaded or something .