possible lead on some bulgarian drums

i will believe it when i see it. and at 200 dollars cost, i definitely wont be buying any... i can get a chinese for cheaper.

there is too much that could go wrong, or mis information that could be passed around. i hope its true, minus the cost part.

Bulgarian drums, eh?

i bet they are chinese that have been bulgaria for the required amount of time to be considered from a "friendly" country.

catsailer40 said:

i bet they are chinese that have been bulgaria for the required amount of time to be considered from a "friendly" country.

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I'll take a few cheap chinese ones..maybe it wil help ease the market some.

Chinese? Most likely not at all.


The Bulgarians did a lot of mag and weapon trading with... the Russians. Many of the Bulgarian 45 rounders that came in had Russian ones mixed in, and the CDNN stockpile of side-stamped Russian mags came through Bulgaria as well.


Stottman will have to chime in for sure, but I am 99% positive the Bulgarians didn't make RPK drums- or, for that matter, 7.62 RPKs. They did, however, get support from Russia... I am betting on Molot drums. If they aren't, then that could be a bad sign, as they could be new commercial made drums which are lacking in the quality department (like the bullet and slabside mags that have been coming in from Bulgaria).

Q-gunner2 said:

Chinese? Most likely not at all.


The Bulgarians did a lot of mag and weapon trading with... the Russians. Many of the Bulgarian 45 rounders that came in had Russian ones mixed in, and the CDNN stockpile of side-stamped Russian mags came through Bulgaria as well.


Stottman will have to chime in for sure, but I am 99% positive the Bulgarians didn't make RPK drums- or, for that matter, 7.62 RPKs. They did, however, get support from Russia... I am betting on Molot drums. If they aren't, then that could be a bad sign, as they could be new commercial made drums which are lacking in the quality department (like the bullet and slabside mags that have been coming in from Bulgaria).

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You just jump to way to many conclusions. Things aren't always a difficult as you make them out to be.

but I am 99% positive the Bulgarians didn't make RPK drums- or, for that matter, 7.62 RPKs.

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The Bulgarians did make an RPK in 7.62x39mm.

Bulgarians didnt make RPK drums.

StreetTrends said:

Q-gunner2 said:

Chinese? Most likely not at all.


The Bulgarians did a lot of mag and weapon trading with... the Russians. Many of the Bulgarian 45 rounders that came in had Russian ones mixed in, and the CDNN stockpile of side-stamped Russian mags came through Bulgaria as well.


Stottman will have to chime in for sure, but I am 99% positive the Bulgarians didn't make RPK drums- or, for that matter, 7.62 RPKs. They did, however, get support from Russia... I am betting on Molot drums. If they aren't, then that could be a bad sign, as they could be new commercial made drums which are lacking in the quality department (like the bullet and slabside mags that have been coming in from Bulgaria).

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You just jump to way to many conclusions. Things aren't always a difficult as you make them out to be.

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What do you mean?


The "in another country for 5 years" part doesn't work, it has been tried with Russian SKSs, SVDs and even Chinese ammo. No go. I doubt the ATF would grant a permit knowing the drums were Chinese. Pretty obvious the difference. And the CDNN mags came through Bulgaria. You can ask them if you do not believe me. Heck, there were even some bullet mags mixed in with peoples orders.

I made a statement that I was afraid they would be commercial. Given Bulgaria and its recent trends (as WarBaby said, the Bulgarian Pro-Mags) I would not put it past them to commercially make drums.

As far as RPKs... I believe I remember Stottman saying they did not make RPK-47s. I could be wrong, though.

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StreetTrends said:

[quote="Q-gunner2":2y0t1jda]As far as RPKs... I believe I remember Stottman saying they did not make RPK-47s. I could be wrong, though.

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They do make them. I can't say if they field them in their own military, but they do make them. The spec list shows 40 rd magazines for the weapons but makes no mention of drums.

They used to have RPKs listed that were select fire versions of the SA RPK7 and SA RPK5 listed but no longer show them. Discontinued? Anyway this is a new weapon or at least a new furniture pattern which = more shit to buy now :neutral:

http://www.arsenal-bg.com/defense_police/7,62lmg.htm

New Bulgarian-made RPK's have been sold to Iraq and the Iraqi Army currently uses them, among their existing Romanian and Russian ones (and the Yugo M72 versions if one wants to also call them "RPK's").

Lets just say the Chinese Tooling/ Machinery to make the drum magazines may be sitting in Bulgaria :mrgreen: I would say there may be a shipment ready to be sold sometime in the near future here in the US :shock: Stay Tuned........


Roger

You can see quite a few Bulgarian RPKs in the Bulgarian around the world thread. None of them had drums in, just 40rnd waffles.

Cope's Dist. said:

Lets just say the Chinese Tooling/ Machinery to make the drum magazines may be sitting in Bulgaria :mrgreen: I would say there may be a shipment ready to be sold sometime in the near future here in the US :shock: Stay Tuned........


Roger

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If this is true, then the price is too high.

Why would people run out to buy "commercial" drums for more than you can buy the real thing?

They may be quality kit in the end, but most that have been around will sit on their money for a while until the drums have been reviewed.

I would buy them all day at half the indicated price in the original post, and that was supposed to be his cost? I don't see how the gunbroker style skyrocket pricing could go "up" on an iffy product when that is in effect surging the available supply.

Don't misread me. I am very happy that someone would do this. I just think they may be over selling themselves.

I wonder if the guy who was going to make US chinese drums was outbid for the machinery by the Bulgarians?

I agree the price is too high also. Now if they were 100 round drums for that price I 'might' be interested.

No "shooter" magazine of any kind including drums is worth $200. When a complete Saiga rifle can be had for $300, a magazine isn't worth $200. That's just crazy.

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i don't beleive the bulgarians made an RPK drum [ i'm talking before the wall fell] now anything is possible. As far as the price of cetain mags ,if it was a collectable as a sample thats fine with me to pay a premium, but not some crazy price.There was a 40rd bakelite 30 cal that just sold on gun broker for $550.00 thats absolutly crazy

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i don't beleive the bulgarians would have copyed a chinese. Also those aresnal marks look to big , most mags & drums you need a magnifing glass just to make out the characters.Like i said anything is possible today