Looking for a ak74 furniture set in the exact color way as the picture I have attached. I am willing to pay whatever you want if you have the exact furniture in question.
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@Hapa_princess_808 Be careful who contacts you for your WTB ad, you want to vet these people very well. Only deal with long time members with good feedback. I see your first response was from scammer #1 who joined 10 hours ago with 1 post.
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Lmao, must be a tough business for one to call out another
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Op, believe it or not, that finish (orange) can be easily accomplished using regular old Iodine ( from walmart, pharmacy, amazon, etc)
Thats how it was actually done by some countries. Iodine's antibacterial properties helps preserve the wood.
I've used light coats of crimson & golden oak stains to get the differing hues as straight iodine can be too dark orange. It will take longer than normal to cure.
Practice 1st. Its an easy DYI thing and you wont loose your $$ to scammers..win/win!
Thats how it was actually done by some countries. Iodine's antibacterial properties helps preserve the wood.
I've used light coats of crimson & golden oak stains to get the differing hues as straight iodine can be too dark orange. It will take longer than normal to cure.
Practice 1st. Its an easy DYI thing and you wont loose your $$ to scammers..win/win!
Resident Russian Wood Finish Master. My Oleg Doesn't Hurt Anymore. 👌
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It's not iodine. The preservative used for antibacterial treatment of Russian wood is purple in its powder chemical form, I can find the details again for interested parties but the whole iodine thing is starting to get cringey. That old rumor had to have started because it is the best way to describe the average color of Russian finishes, but it only has that color in liquid form. It turns a faint yellow after drying, and is not soluble in the topcoat because providone iodine is water based.
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Ok well, I've actually used Iodine several times, as I stated, mixed with actual stain to achieve the proper pigment/hue I wanted, the stain providing additional sealing properties. I was even able to get Chinese chu wood to reach the proper norinco yellow/orange using it.
Nothing was said in the Ops original post about the "proper russian method" he simply asked for the "exact color" which is very much obtainable using that method.
I've done it, along with a whole lot of others - very successfully.
Feel free to search this forum (multiple threads on it) reddit, youtube, even Combloc Customs uses it, per their own vid.
So its NOT an "old rumor" if it works, that becomes a proven method (although I am very certain, several countries used it), its just a method that you happen to either don't believe works or haven't tried...
If you have a source for the real deal chemical formula, now well outdated and out of use, that you can somehow obtain via your russian contacts and get it into the USA , past the import & other restrictions, then I am sure the entire internet would be interested...otherwise all we can get is "close" using readily available supplies and internet rumors. Iodine is 1 way to do that.
Eitherway, I was simply informing the OP he could do it himself to an unfinished stock set, rather than fall prey to scammer after scammer on this site, should it be that important to him. I was trying to help Him not start a debate with you.....
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Well, that would suggest that there is a debate to be had. There isn't. I am simply advising them not to use an overcomplicated process with materials that never, ever, had any historical relation to the components which they are trying to emulate. It doesn't matter how many have tried Iodine; the mere amount of participants that bought into that does not determine whether or not it started from a rumor.
Back in '06 during my first foray into this subject, it was passed off around the web that the Russians used iodine. They didn't. That's why I called it what it is- a rumor.
At that time, the foremost authorities on the subject were Doug/Tantal, Z-recto, and whoever it was that ran the gunscience webpage that had a detailed study on a microscopic analysis of the finish. They even sold a kit of dry materials for mixing into solvent for DIY.
The flaw among Tantal and Z's hypothesis about the finish being shellac, is that there are many, many natural and synthetic finishes that can dissolve with alcohol; therefore to assume that the film is shellac simply because alcohol dissolves it is not a solid conclusion. Shellac can simply never give you a correct texture, thickness or durability. It also weakens considerably under the heat range of normal operation.
Anyone that I have ever worked with on this forum will quickly assert my expertise on this, including the OP, so take what I have to say however you choose, whether that be as criticism, or as information.
Sure, a person can possibly find some way to add iodine into the process of refinishing, but In my experience (thankfully long abandoned for the correct way) is that it has little to no consequence in the final result. Sure, it was fun getting wrapped up in all the mystery and curiosity of what the net had to say about the soviet voodoo magic of finishing, and going ham in the garage into the wee morning hours with more amber shellac and iodine than i should have ever spent money on. What i arrived at was that If you have to still find another colorant to add, such as stain, then it seems like the iodine is an unnecessary extra step rather than just finding a correct color pigment, no?
My suggestion to the op is to use pigments that are dry or wet soluble into the fluid medium used for the film.
Dip it in dilute pine tar or the other disinfectant if you wish, but that only adds a yellow tinge to the wood itself and doesn't matter terribly much
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Back in '06 during my first foray into this subject, it was passed off around the web that the Russians used iodine. They didn't. That's why I called it what it is- a rumor.
At that time, the foremost authorities on the subject were Doug/Tantal, Z-recto, and whoever it was that ran the gunscience webpage that had a detailed study on a microscopic analysis of the finish. They even sold a kit of dry materials for mixing into solvent for DIY.
The flaw among Tantal and Z's hypothesis about the finish being shellac, is that there are many, many natural and synthetic finishes that can dissolve with alcohol; therefore to assume that the film is shellac simply because alcohol dissolves it is not a solid conclusion. Shellac can simply never give you a correct texture, thickness or durability. It also weakens considerably under the heat range of normal operation.
Anyone that I have ever worked with on this forum will quickly assert my expertise on this, including the OP, so take what I have to say however you choose, whether that be as criticism, or as information.
Sure, a person can possibly find some way to add iodine into the process of refinishing, but In my experience (thankfully long abandoned for the correct way) is that it has little to no consequence in the final result. Sure, it was fun getting wrapped up in all the mystery and curiosity of what the net had to say about the soviet voodoo magic of finishing, and going ham in the garage into the wee morning hours with more amber shellac and iodine than i should have ever spent money on. What i arrived at was that If you have to still find another colorant to add, such as stain, then it seems like the iodine is an unnecessary extra step rather than just finding a correct color pigment, no?
My suggestion to the op is to use pigments that are dry or wet soluble into the fluid medium used for the film.
Dip it in dilute pine tar or the other disinfectant if you wish, but that only adds a yellow tinge to the wood itself and doesn't matter terribly much
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Thank you for your suggestions. I appreciate any and all help I can get. But also, I’m a girl lol
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Is that an original finish or is that your refinish? Because if it is a refinish that may be the best refinish I’ve seen in my life.
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- especially avoid anyone that contacts you with "I've know someone who has what you are looking for" then gives you another email address to contact. As Kenmkvii also suggest stay away from any new members even if they seem to have what you need magically.
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I also noticed that they always call me “mate” for some reason lololPrincess
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