[Quake Guy]

Got a set of plum furniture with US pistol grip, curious if the non US parts are Russian or Bulgarian.

How do I tell?

Thanks.

 

[surf99]

Are they AK74 pieces? If so, they may have some silver stamps, or smeared silver marks that were stamps. The lower, and buttstock will.
I dont remember about the upper. They may have been also.
These are Russian.

The Russian will also have some peices mixed in with the plum material.
The ones I have are mostly pink, and a few smaller white pieces also.

I am not really sure the Bulgarians made any plum '74 stock peices.
I have read of them, but that may be just feedback from someone else's ad.

 

[Quake Guy]

Are the stamps on the inside? What I am looking at has no markings of any kind from the outside.

They are currently on a rifle that I got secondhand.

 

[Hootbro]

Bulgarians never made Plum stock sets. The Soviets supplied them with the plum sets.

 

[SturmGrenadier]

What Hootbro said.

 

[surf99]

Quake Guy: They are usually on the end of the lower, and where the
buttstock fits into the trunion/receiver (very end) They may be smeared by now.

The other option would be U.S. made. They are marked as that.
You have no doubt seen some of those. Marked like the PG.

 

[IronBalaclava]

Anybody got a pic of Russian plum vs. US/K-VAR type plum furniture?

 

[Hootbro]

Anybody got a pic of Russian plum vs. US/K-VAR type plum furniture?

Will not be conclusive if you did find a pic. Russian "Plum" varied in hue from very light to almost black. K-VAR's Plum is just what is considered by them as a standard plum color without the variations as seen on the Russian examples.

 

[IronBalaclava]

Anybody got a pic of Russian plum vs. US/K-VAR type plum furniture?

Will not be conclusive if you did find a pic. Russian "Plum" varied in hue from very light to almost black. K-VAR's Plum is just what is considered by them as a standard plum color without the variations as seen on the Russian examples.

Ahh, kinda like the Russian plum mags. I have about twenty of them
and they almost all vary to some degree.

Now is there shiny plum vs. matte plum Soviet furniture?

Since I like the Soviet plum mags so much, I am now considering a
plum AKS-74 build for the collection.

 

[Hootbro]

Now is there shiny plum vs. matte plum Soviet furniture?

Yupe, both have been observed. I will say that Matte is found more often than shiny. You can even find some Russian plum with small white flecks were the polymer pellets did not mix completely with the base color pellets.

 

[IronBalaclava]

Now is there shiny plum vs. matte plum Soviet furniture?

Yupe, both have been observed. I will say that Matte is found more often than shiny. You can even find some Russian plum with small white flecks were the polymer pellets did not mix completely with the base color pellets.

Well, now you know we've just gotta' see pics of Shiny vs. Matte......preferably of similar hue of course! :wink:

 

[Tomovich]

REAL Russian plum...................

Some had silver ink stamps, some didn't. :wink:

 

[phreakmode]

some excellent photo examples here

KVar plum will have a very uniform color to it, completely lifeless. Russian plum has shades and drawn out colors along with texture changes and wood particles that give it life.


KVar stuff is great for 922r and looks nice on its own, it can be distuinguished as US plum from 747 flight altitudes.

 

[ptica]

Original russian

two variants:

 

[surf99]

Good pictures showing the different colored bits in the PGs. That is a great example. This will be typical of Soviet uppers/lowers, and buttstock also.