[Osasamir66]

I guess I missed that these were already stateside.

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that would be good to go if amazon shipping is fast for you. It has been shit for me lately.

So just got ahead and order thia one ?

 

[patjsimpson]

Same price, quality is good for either one. So yes.

 

[Moleman]

Going back over your different threads about this single rifle there is a pic in post 20 here Yugo m70 milled barrel pin hole that shows the barrel installed without the bullet guide. I had asked you about the bullet guide in the Yugo variant thread Bolt does not close all the way yugo m70 milled and AK-JOHN had asked about the bullet guide here Yugo m70 The bullet guide has a cam section on it that starts the bolt rotating. It is installed before pressing in the barrel and is likely the cause of your bolt not closing properly.

You really should start a single build thread instead of bouncing around with questions so people giving you advice can have the whole picture.

 

[Osasamir66]

Going back over your different threads about this single rifle there is a pic in post 20 here Yugo m70 milled barrel pin hole that shows the barrel installed without the bullet guide. I had asked you about the bullet guide in the Yugo variant thread Bolt does not close all the way yugo m70 milled and AK-JOHN had asked about the bullet guide here Yugo m70 The bullet guide has a cam section on it that starts the bolt rotating. It is installed before pressing in the barrel and is likely the cause of your bolt not closing properly.

You really should start a single build thread instead of bouncing around with questions so people giving you advice can have the whole picture.

My kit didnt come with a bolt guide . and I dont even know where to get one from and if its nececary ?

 

[Moleman]

They're necessary and usually you have to remove it from the old front receiver stub yourself and rivet it in the new 100% receiver. If you didn't get receiver pieces Apex has used original ones which would be best but they are available other places as well. Yugoslavian M70 Bullet Guide, 7.62x39, *Good* and your rivet kit should of come with the rivet.
AKbuilder has the rivet, but again your rivet set should of come with one Home :: 80% Milled Recievers :: AK47 Bullet Guide Rivet

Only ever used one 100% milled receiver where the bullet guide needed installed as I prefer to reweld the old receiver if possible. Before you rivet it in, verify that the bolt has enough room when it hits the cam to start turning. Guys have had to fit the cam section using mismatched parts which needs to be done before riveting it in.

 

[Osasamir66]

They're necessary and usually you have to remove it from the old front receiver stub yourself and rivet it in the new 100% receiver. If you didn't get receiver pieces Apex has used original ones which would be best but they are available other places as well. Yugoslavian M70 Bullet Guide, 7.62x39, Good and your rivet kit should of come with the rivet.
AKbuilder has the rivet, but again your rivet set should of come with one Home :: 80% Milled Recievers :: AK47 Bullet Guide Rivet

Only ever used one 100% milled receiver where the bullet guide needed installed as I prefer to reweld the old receiver if possible. Before you rivet it in, verify that the bolt has enough room when it hits the cam to start turning. Guys have had to fit the cam section using mismatched parts which needs to be done before riveting it in.

I didn't have a revit press kit

 

[patjsimpson]

I didn't have a revit press kit

rivet kit is not needed it just makes it easier. But as moleman says you need a bullet guide it is mandatory to turn the bolt and engage the locking lugs with the receiver. I agree with moleman that you really should start a dedicated thread and post lots of pictures from all directions as a picture here and there leaves us missing info that would be required to help.

 

[Moleman]

With a little research and effort any tool needed to work on an AK can be made with simple tools. Where there's a will there's a way.

For the bullet guide rivet I just put a rivet head sized punch in my bench vise so that it was resting on the bottom of the movable jaw and was sticking up enough to support the rivet head which also pushed the bullet guide up against it's recess in the receiver. Then with the receiver upside down flattened/set the skinny side of the rivet using a 5/16 punch and 4# hammer. Then flipped it over used a 3/8" or 5/16" punch mounted in the vise to support the bottom side of the rivet and used a skinner punch to blend the rivet head to match the bullet guide. Lastly , ground the top side smooth with a dremel and 3/4" sanding drum.

Circle is where the rivet head goes and you can make out a little bit of the edge at about the 10:00-11:00 area. Arrow points to bullet guide cam that starts the bolt rotating so that the carrier can finish the rotation and lock the bolt.

 

[Osasamir66]

With a little research and effort any tool needed to work on an AK can be made with simple tools. Where there's a will there's a way.

For the bullet guide rivet I just put a rivet head sized punch in my bench vise so that it was resting on the bottom of the movable jaw and was sticking up enough to support the rivet head which also pushed the bullet guide up against it's recess in the receiver. Then with the receiver upside down flattened/set the skinny side of the rivet using a 5/16 punch and 4# hammer. Then flipped it over used a 3/8" or 5/16" punch mounted in the vise to support the bottom side of the rivet and used a skinner punch to blend the rivet head to match the bullet guide. Lastly , ground the top side smooth with a dremel and 3/4" sanding drum.

Circle is where the rivet head goes and you can make out a little bit of the edge at about the 10:00-11:00 area. Arrow points to bullet guide cam that starts the bolt rotating so that the carrier can finish the rotation and lock the bolt.
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Wow that look clean sir . I guess for now all I have to do is order the bullet guide and I already ordered the gauges ِdo it need to order spacfic revit too ?

 

[patjsimpson]

You can get both from here. https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak-47-bullet-guide-and-rivet.html
or k-var https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak-47-bullet-guide-and-rivet.html
I have used k-var but I would assume the psa guides would be fine. but I have not used them.

 

[Olle]

My kit didnt come with a bolt guide . and I dont even know where to get one from and if its nececary ?

Jeez, man... it's bullet guide and not bolt guide. And yeah, a bullet guide is necessary, or else the manufacturers wouldn't bother to install bullet guides in no frills, simple as shit rifles like the AKMs. You should heed the advice above and start a build thread. We have all been noobs at some point and there's nothing wrong about that, but it would sure be easier to guide you along in one single thread.

 

[patjsimpson]

AOA has them also https://armsofamerica.com/7-62x39-bullet-guide-wbp/ and rivets not together.

 

[JeepFan]

With a little research and effort any tool needed to work on an AK can be made with simple tools. Where there's a will there's a way.

For the bullet guide rivet I just put a rivet head sized punch in my bench vise so that it was resting on the bottom of the movable jaw and was sticking up enough to support the rivet head which also pushed the bullet guide up against it's recess in the receiver. Then with the receiver upside down flattened/set the skinny side of the rivet using a 5/16 punch and 4# hammer. Then flipped it over used a 3/8" or 5/16" punch mounted in the vise to support the bottom side of the rivet and used a skinner punch to blend the rivet head to match the bullet guide. Lastly , ground the top side smooth with a dremel and 3/4" sanding drum.

Circle is where the rivet head goes and you can make out a little bit of the edge at about the 10:00-11:00 area. Arrow points to bullet guide cam that starts the bolt rotating so that the carrier can finish the rotation and lock the bolt.
View attachment 356231 View attachment 356239

Very nice.

I do the same but just use cut to size long rear or RPK trunnion rivets for bullet guide rivets.

 

[Osasamir66]

Jeez, man... it's bullet guide and not bolt guide. And yeah, a bullet guide is necessary, or else the manufacturers wouldn't bother to install bullet guides in no frills, simple as shit rifles like the AKMs. You should heed the advice above and start a build thread. We have all been noobs at some point and there's nothing wrong about that, but it would sure be easier to guide you along in one single thread.

Sorry sir I have a stupid phone and I usually dont look what it type . and thank you for the advice

 

[Osasamir66]

You can get both from here. https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak-47-bullet-guide-and-rivet.html
or k-var https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak-47-bullet-guide-and-rivet.html
I have used k-var but I would assume the psa guides would be fine. but I have not used them.

Got that already from psa . and hopfully it gets here soon . I will remove the barrel in guess . and start clean up things until the gauges and the bullet gets here I guess . and look for some video to install that . and we go from there .

 

[roxeje81]

Ok


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[patjsimpson]

may not need to remove the barrel, maybe just push it forward a little if needed.

 

[Osasamir66]

may not need to remove the barrel, maybe just push it forward a little if needed.

Yea one or another I guess . at least to five me more room

 

[BigJoe]

They have those in brownells View attachment 356177

What I use. These are good to go in my opinion.

 

[Osasamir66]

What I use. These are good to go in my opinion.

Waiting on mine coming today