first build, what parts kit to purchase?

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strobes

Discussion Starter · 6 d ago

Any recommendations what to purchase for first build in $500-$600 range with total budget for the build about $800. This extra $200for barrel, trigger kit, rivets, scope rail, mag if not included in the kit.
In hope to have something that has history and can last longer compare to Palmento GF3 after the same # of rounds.

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BigJoe

· #2 · 6 d ago

Unfortunately, your budget is already in crisis. Shop around, but buy from well rated sources. Prices will vary. I personally, have been impressed with Atlantic Firearms kits and customer service. See what they have in stock. Good luck on your new build.

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Robert2888

· #3 · 6 d ago

That amount of shekels ain’t gonna cut it in Biden’s Amurrica if you want a surplus parts kit to build. Even a Romanian underfolder is more than likely going to bust your high end, if you use a quality barrel and receiver.

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strobes

Discussion Starter · #4 · 6 d ago

ok, thank you. yes i see that I my budget is about $100-$150 short.
Found a Romania kit , from 1965-1980, CAT II - All matching numbers , includes furniture, fire control group, rivets for $630. Looks like need a barrel, receiver, mag.
How these Romans compare to others? Is this ok for first build?

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JimmyC

· #5 · 6 d ago (Edited)

Robert2888 said:
That amount of shekels ain’t gonna cut it in Biden’s Amurrica if you want a surplus parts kit to build. Even a Romanian underfolder is more than likely going to bust your high end, if you use a quality barrel and receiver.

Roberts right the Romy is ah, er, the usual starting kit. And you can pick one up for around your budget. I say that because other than a new built rifle, that was my starting point. Then you can save for the receiver and barrel and whatever else you need. Like BigJoe said, Atlantic has mostly been good to me.

JimmyC

· #6 · 6 d ago (Edited)

strobes said:
ok, thank you. yes i see that I my budget is about $100-$150 short.
Found a Romania kit , from 1965-1980, CAT II - All matching numbers , includes furniture, fire control group, rivets for $630. Looks like need a barrel, receiver, mag.
How these Romans compare to others? Is this ok for first build?

Yes. That could be a good idea and there are lots of good folk to help you from here. Sounds like Arms of America's descriptions.

XSAPPER

· #7 · 5 d ago

https://armsofamerica.com/polish-radom-11-military-surplus-fixed-stock-parts-kit-no-barrel-very-good-to-excellent/

https://armsofamerica.com/fb-chrome-lined-hammer-forged--sporter--barrel-16-/

https://armsofamerica.com/AK-47-Receiver/

Memorial Day sale at AOA, not sure about the Morrissey receiver, you might ask around here about them

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JimmyC

· #8 · 5 d ago

XSAPPER said:
https://armsofamerica.com/polish-radom-11-military-surplus-fixed-stock-parts-kit-no-barrel-very-good-to-excellent/

https://armsofamerica.com/fb-chrome-lined-hammer-forged--sporter--barrel-16-/

https://armsofamerica.com/AK-47-Receiver/
Memorial Day sale at AOA, not sure about the Morrissey receiver, you might ask around here about them

Ah, not a bad receiver, but personally, I would go with Childers Guns for that. Just my opinion. And the barrel is good Polish stock but would need some smith work as well probably though I could be wrong about that depending on the particular barrel and if it is threaded, and if you're going to have the kit built by one of our great builders, you may not want the gas port pre-drilled. Just some thoughts.

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XSAPPER

· #9 · 5 d ago

JimmyC said:
Ah, not a bad receiver, but personally, I would go with Childers Guns for that. Just my opinion. And the barrel is good Polish stock but would need some smith work as well probably though I could be wrong about that depending on the particular barrel and if it is threaded, and if you're going to have the kit built by one of our great builders, you may not want the gas port pre-drilled. Just some thoughts.

Yes, handguard cuts and threading can be had for $25 from AOA. I thought Morrissey was ok but kind of generic, I figured if he was building a budget AK and as a first build it would fit the bill.

strobes

Discussion Starter · #10 · 5 d ago

XSAPPER said:
https://armsofamerica.com/polish-radom-11-military-surplus-fixed-stock-parts-kit-no-barrel-very-good-to-excellent/

https://armsofamerica.com/fb-chrome-lined-hammer-forged--sporter--barrel-16-/

https://armsofamerica.com/AK-47-Receiver/
Memorial Day sale at AOA, not sure about the Morrissey receiver, you might ask around here about them

just ordered all above but receiver. Need to decide If I want to tinker with 80%
with polish mag and muzzle brake i like total is $250 over my original budget. without receiver. Oh well but it's polish kit and barrel. Here we go new a new project starts, "a hard time is always fee!"

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strobes

Discussion Starter · #11 · 5 d ago

XSAPPER said:
Yes, handguard cuts and threading can be had for $25 from AOA. I thought Morrissey was ok but kind of generic, I figured if he was building a budget AK and as a first build it would fit the bill.

I have lathe, cut, chambered barrels for my Savage and AR10 before so no problems there. Also have a small CNC mill for de-milling and hand guard cuts.

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XSAPPER

· #12 · 5 d ago

strobes said:
just ordered all above but receiver. Need to decide If I want to tinker with 80%
with polish mag and muzzle brake i like total is $250 over my original budget. without receiver. Oh well but it's polish kit and barrel. Here we go new a new project starts, "a hard time is always fee!"

Polish firearm tend to be a nicer quality than the Romanian, but hey we love our Romanians too.

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XSAPPER

· #13 · 5 d ago

strobes said:
I have lathe, cut, chambered barrels for my Savage and AR10 before so no problems there. Also have a small CNC mill for de-milling and hand guard cuts.

Hmm, where are you at and would you be interested in putting handguard cuts in a couple barrels?

strobes

Discussion Starter · #14 · 5 d ago

XSAPPER said:
Hmm, where are you at and would you be interested in putting handguard cuts in a couple barrels?

North Dallas, 75075. If close we can trade skills. And I'm sure you have all gadgets to make a build easy vs. i need to cut and weld these....

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strobes

Discussion Starter · #15 · 5 d ago

strobes said:
North Dallas, 75075. If close we can trade skills. And I'm sure you have all gadgets to make a build easy vs. i need to cut and weld these....

Well I see you are in KY. Lets do this. When I cut a barrel for my build and understand the process better, will let you know and see how I can help you.

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XSAPPER

· #16 · 5 d ago

strobes said:
North Dallas, 75075. If close we can trade skills. And I'm sure you have all gadgets to make a build easy vs. i need to cut and weld these....

Got out of building for a while due to several things going on. Now I’m getting back into it. I might have something to barter with 👍
The company my girlfriend works for is based out of Dallas. Sometimes she has to go there, but not much since the pandemic.

strobes

Discussion Starter · #17 · 5 d ago

JimmyC said:
Ah, not a bad receiver, but personally, I would go with Childers Guns for that. Just my opinion. And the barrel is good Polish stock but would need some smith work as well probably though I could be wrong about that depending on the particular barrel and if it is threaded, and if you're going to have the kit built by one of our great builders, you may not want the gas port pre-drilled. Just some thoughts.

Will this receiver (AK 74 Receiver (Polish Stamping) FFL ITEM) count as foreign part or US made? ( thinking about 922r)

strobes

Discussion Starter · #18 · 5 d ago

I ordered LBE Unlimited G3 Fire Control Group, I'm assuming these US made parts? Muzzle brake is US. Hope the Childers Guns receiver will add to the count. How many more I'll need to make sure 10 or less are foreign? Thanks!

JimmyC

· #19 · 5 d ago (Edited)

strobes said:
Will this receiver (AK 74 Receiver (Polish Stamping) FFL ITEM) count as foreign part or US made? ( thinking about 922r)

Not the right one. Made for AK74. Which is a different caliber than you need for the aforementioned kit right. Definitely US part. Just wrong receiver for your AKM (47) kit. They do have the right one. US Made in W. VA USA and will also be a 100% receiver already drilled for the fire control group and will be shipped to your chosen FFL.

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Crusherdestroyer

· #20 · 5 d ago

No need for a muzzle break. Remember 10yr kids in third world countries are shooting the akm.

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