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This is a cross post from my thread at M4Carbine.net. Too much to retype......

First of all, I'd like to thank Brett from FN Herstal (http://www.m4carbine.net/member.php?u=285) for bringing a SCAR-L to the Vickers Advanced Carbine and Pistol class this past weekend http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=16765, it was an opportunity that few civillians have had thus far.

My first impressions....the SCAR-L is one of the most well thought out platforms I've seen, period. It's an evolutionary system that incorporates the best of several different systems.

The engineering, construction, ergonomics, simpliciy and reliablity really impressed me.

The SCAR-L certainly feels lighter and handles better for me, than a similar DI AR carbine with similar accessories on it, and I much prefer the buttstock on the SCAR series to anything I've tried on an AR. The adjustablity and folding mechanism remind me of the later variants of the SIG 55X series (Swiss StuG-90), which is one of the best out there, period.

Ergonomics were great overall, although some of us who handled it thought that they would have set the selector up like a M4/M16 if they were designing it. Handguards remained manageable even after many, many magazines had been put through it by the students at the class.

I honestly can't remember how many rounds Brett said he had through the 10" barrel but it's accuracy was superb. He did not clean it for the entire class and when it was field stripped on TD 3, it was FAR cleaner inside the receiver than a DI gun would have been, and cleaner than a typical AK would have been with it's long stroke gas system. There was one failure that I am aware of, using Prvi Partisan SS-109, which certainly isn't known for it's consistency.

Breakdown for field stripping was a snap, and detail stripping, including the removal of the barrel, was very easy with the supplied tool.

Someone was really thinking when they designed this system. J.M. Browning and D. Saive would be proud. I've had an appreciation for FN systems for years, having owned numerous FN-49's, FAL's, P-35's, and having shot a number of FNC's. The SCAR is definitely a 21st Century rifle system.

I know this sounds like a puff piece, but I was honestly blown away by the quality and design of the system. As I told Larry, I don't care if it's a 17th Century matchlock musket or a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range, if it goes bang, I dig it. I really dig this carbine.

When it makes it to the civillian market, I'm buying one.

Enough jibber-jabber......time for pictures:





































 

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cool!

so templar honest assessment scar light vs acr

i know your experience with either is limited but just your initial impressions
 

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Just_Parker said:
cool!

so templar honest assessment scar light vs acr

i know your experience with either is limited but just your initial impressions
I don't feel like it can be done fairly.

The Masada that I shot and handled was the first prototype, it was not representative of what the final product from Bushmaster will be. The ACR will be incorporating many improvements over the original prototype Masada. I like the idea of the modularity of the Masada/ACR, especially if they can introduce different (AK) lowers and calibers into the mix, and if Bushmaster can keep the quality of the rifle high.

The FN on the other hand is in production for certain units in the military right now, it was designed and is being manufactured by one of the oldest and most respected arms companies in the world, Fabrique Nationale Herstal.

Without handling a production ACR side by side with a FN SCAR-L, I can't really compare.

If that sounds like a cop-out, it wasn't supposed to be, I'm just trying to be as honest as I can be.
 

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Tis a beaut. One of the few modern "Tactical" arms I would ever care to own.

Edit: Any talk of civilian sales?
 

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I fuckin swear an FNC auto sear would go into one of those.


Oh the possiblities But I doubt the BATFE would let that conversion go.
 

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Have the Belgian bastards figured out how much they're going to bilk us for?
 

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That is a very nice weapon & I would like to one day own one... but I can't get away from the fact that when it is folded up, it looks like someone has glued an upside down ski boot to the side of the rifle! :roll:

-urban
 

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urban assault said:
That is a very nice weapon & I would like to one day own one... but I can't get away from the fact that when it is folded up, it looks like someone has glued an upside down ski boot to the side of the rifle! :roll:

-urban
That would have no effect on me buying one if a civvy version ever eventually hits the market, but dammit if I didn't just laugh my ass off when I looked at the picture and realized you're exactly right.

Thanks for the pics Templar, that thing is badass.
 

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Pure....unadulterated....badass!!!!

Price range?

Thanks for the review Templar.
 

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m0ondoggy said:
urban assault said:
That is a very nice weapon & I would like to one day own one... but I can't get away from the fact that when it is folded up, it looks like someone has glued an upside down ski boot to the side of the rifle! :roll:

-urban
That would have no effect on me buying one if a civvy version ever eventually hits the market, but dammit if I didn't just laugh my ass off when I looked at the picture and realized you're exactly right.

Thanks for the pics Templar, that thing is badass.
It IS a badass rifle, and even with the upside down ski boot(or the UDSB as I call it :lol:) on it, I still lust after that FN machine.

-urban
 

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Bad ass rifle... Thanks for the post.

I've never seen that many pissed off tactical guys wearing sunglasses and ball caps in one picture.
 

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DarbyFett said:
Tis a beaut. One of the few modern "Tactical" arms I would ever care to own.

Edit: Any talk of civilian sales?
Brett is the project manager for military sales, civillian and LE sales aren't his area at all.

Having said that, he stated that it'll either be late '08 or early '09 before we can expect US civillian sales.

Pricing.....most likely around $2K, but that's an ESTIMATE, I don't have any hard data for that.
 

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Templar said:
DarbyFett said:
Tis a beaut. One of the few modern "Tactical" arms I would ever care to own.

Edit: Any talk of civilian sales?
Brett is the project manager for military sales, civillian and LE sales aren't his area at all.

Having said that, he stated that it'll either be late '08 or early '09 before we can expect US civillian sales.

Pricing.....most likely around $2K, but that's an ESTIMATE, I don't have any hard data for that.
my name will be on a waiting list for it.

i hope its out before the next shotshow
 

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M*********ER!,.. looks like i gotta save for yet another FN.

i dig the 10in set-up,. ski boot or not i want one.

the laser would be nice as well,. but i really want to know where to get the threaded barrel for the FNP-45. hopefully FNH finally started listing to the guys with the FNP's that wanted a threaded barrel.

i know i would love to get one for both my FNP-9 & FNP-45
 
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