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Thanks, I know those books. The problem has had no sources listed in relation to the Hungarian AKMs. This could be coming from other countries, not directly sold by Hungary. I found nothing in the archives about that. It estimated 11,000 Hungarian AKMs received in the Caribbean region, but only a few shown in photos or even captured.

Based on the records, Hungary sold 7000 pcs older AK-55 to Cuba through a German company based on Duesseldorf named, Comex Eisen und Stahl GmbH in 1968. Nothing in 1969, then between 1970-1980 21800 pcs AK-55, 12000 pcs AMD-65 sold through various companies. But no AKM-63 listed.
Not directly sold by Hungary, probably. Could still be sold through front companies or other third parties. As for the Caribbean region, I always figured that the Sandinsta regime in Nicaragua could have first obtained the rifles, then decided to share a few with their guerrilla friends in Salvador.
 

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Not directly sold by Hungary, probably. Could still be sold through front companies or other third parties. As for the Caribbean region, I always figured that the Sandinsta regime in Nicaragua could have first obtained the rifles, then decided to share a few with their guerrilla friends in Salvador.
Yes, this could be the best possible scenario. I searched for any info about that in archives but I had no luck.

Meanwhile, I've got a suggestion and found just one important thing. Due to Hungary had a very limited sea ship transport capability, any weapon that we sold to Cuba or the Caribbean region always shipped by Soviet transport ships. Now I try to check the foreign trade ministry shipping agreements and documents in the archives.

I'm sure those documents could not name any weapons on their transport list due to confidelity, but the sender, the package type, size, volume, and category always recorded.

So we know the senders could be: FKV - Ferunion Külkereskedelmi Vállalat ("Ferunion" Foreign Trade Co.) Budapest Hungary, TKV - Technika Külkereskedelmi Vállalat ("Technology" Foreign Trade Co.)
And the weapon crates size: AK-55/AKM-63: 120x44x34 cm, AMD-65: 100x60x40

Hopefully, I found some suspicious transport, fingers crossed.
 

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Yes, this could be the best possible scenario. I searched for any info about that in archives but I had no luck.

Meanwhile, I've got a suggestion and found just one important thing. Due to Hungary had a very limited sea ship transport capability, any weapon that we sold to Cuba or the Caribbean region always shipped by Soviet transport ships. Now I try to check the foreign trade ministry shipping agreements and documents in the archives.

I'm sure those documents could not name any weapons on their transport list due to confidelity, but the sender, the package type, size, volume, and category always recorded.

So we know the senders could be: FKV - Ferunion Külkereskedelmi Vállalat ("Ferunion" Foreign Trade Co.) Budapest Hungary, TKV - Technika Külkereskedelmi Vállalat ("Technology" Foreign Trade Co.)
And the weapon crates size: AK-55/AKM-63: 120x44x34 cm, AMD-65: 100x60x40

Hopefully, I found some suspicious transport, fingers crossed.
Do you have any info about AK-55 or AKM-63 exports or sales?
 

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Do you have any info about AK-55 or AKM-63 exports or sales?
Yes sure.

Both AK-55 and AKM-63 case Hungary exported those weapons for free as part of socialist countries' assistance.

AK-55: a total of 7978 pcs exported between 1966-1969 (no details how many were sent to each country, except Cuba, but we have overall numbers only).
Serial numbers: BM39522 - BM47500. Brand new weapons were built in 1966 from the remaining AK-55 parts. Factory designation was AK-55E (E- Export)
  • The Republic of Guinea in 1966 and 1969
  • Arab Republic of Egypt 1967
  • Syrian Arab Republic 1967
  • Lao People's Revolutionary Party (Laos) 1966 and 1969
  • Cape Verde 1967
  • Cuba 1968 (7000 pcs)
Between 1970-1980 additional 21800 pcs mixed leftover AK-55s with mixed serial numbers from Border Guard (HÖR) armory was sold to Cuba again. But this wasn't listed anywhere as weapon export. Because those weapons are sold in disassembled form as weapon parts through the Soviets. Similar to how AMD-65 was sent to Afghan forces in 2010. The USA bought those weapons from Hungary then transferred them to Afghanistan. So officially we never sold it to Afghanistan.

AKM-63: a total of 25870 pcs refurbished AKM-63 MAT (with blue plastic parts), and AKM-63 FAT (with wooden parts) in mixed exported between 1977-1979.
Serial numbers: various, mostly from MH XXXX - MJ XXXX pool. We have information only on how many weapon crates were prepared to sent by FÉG to those countries, but no exact exported weapon numbers. But one crate could accommodate a maximum of 10 pcs of AKM-63, so rough numbers could be available.
Crates sent:
  • Angola 190
  • Cape Verde 330
  • Egypt 102
  • Ethiopia 174
  • Laos 193
  • Lebanon 37
  • Libya 104
  • Mali 201
  • Mozambique 144
  • Peru 90
  • Somalia 307
  • Sudan 182
  • Syria 307
  • The Republic of Guinea 41
  • Yemen 95
  • Zimbabwe 101

Overall 2598 crates
 

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Yes sure.

Both AK-55 and AKM-63 case Hungary exported those weapons for free as part of socialist countries' assistance.

AK-55: a total of 7978 pcs exported between 1966-1969 (no details how many were sent to each country, except Cuba, but we have overall numbers only).
Serial numbers: BM39522 - BM47500. Brand new weapons were built in 1966 from the remaining AK-55 parts. Factory designation was AK-55E (E- Export)
  • The Republic of Guinea in 1966 and 1969
  • Arab Republic of Egypt 1967
  • Syrian Arab Republic 1967
  • Lao People's Revolutionary Party (Laos) 1966 and 1969
  • Cape Verde 1967
  • Cuba 1968 (7000 pcs)
Between 1970-1980 additional 21800 pcs mixed leftover AK-55s with mixed serial numbers from Border Guard (HÖR) armory was sold to Cuba again. But this wasn't listed anywhere as weapon export. Because those weapons are sold in disassembled form as weapon parts through the Soviets. Similar to how AMD-65 was sent to Afghan forces in 2010. The USA bought those weapons from Hungary then transferred them to Afghanistan. So officially we never sold it to Afghanistan.

AKM-63: a total of 25870 pcs refurbished AKM-63 MAT (with blue plastic parts), and AKM-63 FAT (with wooden parts) in mixed exported between 1977-1979.
Serial numbers: various, mostly from MH XXXX - MJ XXXX pool. We have information only on how many weapon crates were prepared to sent by FÉG to those countries, but no exact exported weapon numbers. But one crate could accommodate a maximum of 10 pcs of AKM-63, so rough numbers could be available.
Crates sent:
  • Angola 190
  • Cape Verde 330
  • Egypt 102
  • Ethiopia 174
  • Laos 193
  • Lebanon 37
  • Libya 104
  • Mali 201
  • Mozambique 144
  • Peru 90
  • Somalia 307
  • Sudan 182
  • Syria 307
  • The Republic of Guinea 41
  • Yemen 95
  • Zimbabwe 101

Overall 2598 crates
Any exports after 1979? Also, Iraq apparently got some.
 

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Any exports after 1979? Also, Iraq apparently got some.
Iraq AK direct exports

1973-1976 - 35000pcs AMD-65.
1978-1979 - 10000pcs AK-63 (AKMF - refurbished AKM-63)
1986 - 36000pcs AK-63F/D (AMM/AMMSz)

They bought real AK-63 only in 1986, according to the Hungarian secret service report.

"In 1986 June Tariq Aziz, the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Iraq started to visit each of those countries to buy as many weapons as they can. They visited Hungary on June 10, 1986, just a day after he's got deals with Romania. In Hungary, they bought many heavy weapons, small arms and also visited the FÉG weapon factory on June 11, were presented them a various type of FÉG produced heavy, medium weapons and finally the small arms production line."

In 1986 Iraq bought a lot of 85mm AA guns equipped with radar, 81mm mortars, 800pcs PKM machine guns, 36000pcs AK-63's, 18000pcs Pistols, 2500pcs SVD's from FÉG
 

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Iraq AK direct exports

1973-1976 - 35000pcs AMD-65.
1978-1979 - 10000pcs AK-63 (AKMF - refurbished AKM-63)
1986 - 36000pcs AK-63F/D (AMM/AMMSz)

They bought real AK-63 only in 1986, according to the Hungarian secret service report.

"In 1986 June Tariq Aziz, the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Iraq started to visit each of those countries to buy as many weapons as they can. They visited Hungary on June 10, 1986, just a day after he's got deals with Romania. In Hungary, they bought many heavy weapons, small arms and also visited the FÉG weapon factory on June 11, were presented them a various type of FÉG produced heavy, medium weapons and finally the small arms production line."

In 1986 Iraq bought a lot of 85mm AA guns equipped with radar, 81mm mortars, 800pcs PKM machine guns, 36000pcs AK-63's, 18000pcs Pistols, 2500pcs SVD's from FÉG
Anything with regard to Central America? Also, what year did AK-63F/Ds start getting exported?
 

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I can attest that there’s AMD-65 in Cuba, I saw them and shot one in a couple of occasions, I was like 15 years old, I remember like it was yesterday.
Those AMD’s came from Irak in the 80’s inside a fleet of Citroen ambulances that Sadam Hussein donated to the communist regime after a famous Cuban surgeon successfully did a surgery on one of Sadam’s son after he suffered injuries in an ambush where his car rolled over many times.


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Anything with regard to Central America? Also, what year did AK-63F/Ds start getting exported?
Well, seems nothing. As far as I checked Hungary did not sell (even through 3rd parties) anything to Central America, except Cuba. Which was exported for free as part of socialist countries' assistance.

AK-63F (serial No.M00001 - M14500) 14500pcs exported in 1982, but have no destination/importer on trading documents.
AK-63D (serial No A000001 - A024700; A049651 - A74250; A098311 - A110210; A151201 - A189410; GI 5803 - GN 1530) 145138pcs exported between 1985-1990 to Iraq, Iran, Syria, Somalia, Zambia, Croatia, India
 

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Well, seems nothing. As far as I checked Hungary did not sell (even through 3rd parties) anything to Central America, except Cuba. Which was exported for free as part of socialist countries' assistance.

AK-63F (serial No.M00001 - M14500) 14500pcs exported in 1982, but have no destination/importer on trading documents.
At least some of those rifles could have been exported to Central America.
 

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Well, seems nothing. As far as I checked Hungary did not sell (even through 3rd parties) anything to Central America, except Cuba. Which was exported for free as part of socialist countries' assistance.

AK-63F (serial No.M00001 - M14500) 14500pcs exported in 1982, but have no destination/importer on trading documents.
AK-63D (serial No A000001 - A024700; A049651 - A74250; A098311 - A110210; A151201 - A189410; GI 5803 - GN 1530) 145138pcs exported between 1985-1990 to Iraq, Iran, Syria, Somalia, Zambia, Croatia, India
Also, when it came to the AK-63s serial numbers, did they start off new, or continue from the AKM-63s?
 

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Also, when it came to the AK-63s serial numbers, did they start off new, or continue from the AKM-63s?
AK-63s did not continue to use AKM-63s serials, but used a new serial pool.

AKM-63:
Army: MA 0001 - MK 6163
Ministry of Interior: BM47501 - BM50500 (they were not put in service after combat test)
Training: MG 0001 - MG 0900

AK-63 AKMF:
Army: ML 0001 - MN 1718
Export: various, mostly from ME - MG series

AK-63F:
Army: GA 0001 - GD 5039
Export: M00001 - M14500

AK-63D:
Army: GD 5040 - GI 5802; A024701 - A049650; A074251 - A098310; A110211 - A151200
Export: A000001 - A024700; A049651 - A74250; A098311 - A110210; A151201 - A189410; GI 5803 - GN 1530
 

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AK-63s did not continue to use AKM-63s serials, but used a new serial pool.

AKM-63:
Army: MA 0001 - MK 6163
Ministry of Interior: BM47501 - BM50500 (they were not put in service after combat test)
Training: MG 0001 - MG 0900

AK-63 AKMF:
Army: ML 0001 - MN 1718
Export: various, mostly from ME - MG series

AK-63F:
Army: GA 0001 - GD 5039
Export: M00001 - M14500

AK-63D:
Army: GD 5040 - GI 5802; A024701 - A049650; A074251 - A098310; A110211 - A151200
Export: A000001 - A024700; A049651 - A74250; A098311 - A110210; A151201 - A189410; GI 5803 - GN 1530
The rifles I'm interested in were in the 600,000 serial range. Were those AKM-63s? Also, did some rifles have the Roman numeral for "one" for semi auto, as opposed to the Arabic?
 

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The rifles I'm interested in were in the 600,000 serial range. Were those AKM-63s? Also, did some rifles have the Roman numeral for "one" for semi auto, as opposed to the Arabic?
Those weapons were not Hungarian-made weapons I'm sure. Hungary weapon manufacturers always use letter(s) without exception, before numbers for their weapons' serial.

But in 1962 Hungary bought 5013 pcs 1961's made Soviet AK-47S for their paratroopers and tankers. Those weapons had a 600,000 serial range. (1961★ 665151 - 670163)
The AK-47S withdrawn from service in 1967 when AMD-65 was introduced. Unfortunately, I found nothing about those weapon's fate.

I'm 99% sure also, none of the Hungarian-made weapons had Arabic marks. I asked about my weapon collector and Hungarian Military History Museum contacts, but no artifacts or information they have about Hungarian AKs with Arabic markings.
 

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Those weapons were not Hungarian-made weapons I'm sure. Hungary weapon manufacturers always use letter(s) without exception, before numbers for their weapons' serial.

But in 1962 Hungary bought 5013 pcs 1961's made Soviet AK-47S for their paratroopers and tankers. Those weapons had a 600,000 serial range. (1961★ 665151 - 670163)
The AK-47S withdrawn from service in 1967 when AMD-65 was introduced. Unfortunately, I found nothing about those weapon's fate.

I'm 99% sure also, none of the Hungarian-made weapons had Arabic marks. I asked about my weapon collector and Hungarian Military History Museum contacts, but no artifacts or information they have about Hungarian AKs with Arabic markings.
Maybe the rifles had letters in their serial #s, the author just didn't mention them. Also, I was referring to the types of numerals used for the selector markings. I was wondering if some Hungarian Kalashnikovs had the Roman numeral for single shot, instead of the more common "1".
 

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Even the serials could have a missing letter prefix Hungarian AKs never produced in such high serial number. Hungarian AKs never use Roman "I" for single shot mark. All the older/other Hungarian weapons used "E" (egyeslövés) for Singleshot marks.
 

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Even the serials could have a missing letter prefix Hungarian AKs never produced in such high serial number. Hungarian AKs never use Roman "I" for single shot mark. All the older/other Hungarian weapons used "E" (egyeslövés) for Singleshot marks.
Maybe the author made a error with regard to the serials. Also, maybe the Roman "I' was a result of someone painting or painting over the selector markings. Also, do you know how many rifles of each model were manufactured in a year?
 

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... Also, do you know how many rifles of each model were manufactured in a year?
Yes of course. I have really detailed data for each model, serial, and production quantity. I can not able to post here all of this detailed data due it will be part of my upcoming book.

FÉG produced their weapons in a batch, and six months in advance they had to plan how many weapons do they want to produce. Planned production numbers need to be approved not only by the company management board but the Ministries as well. This is because their production lines overall manufacturing weapon numbers were capped also their storage capacity was limited as well.

In general, FÉG’s production capacity was a total of 150,000 AK rifles per year if it produced only one type of model. In the case of the production of several types of weapons, this number was a total of 110,000 weapons due to the separation of parallel assembly lines.
 
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