last I checked, the 416 was not going to be offered to the civilian market, correct me if I'm wrong. Bummer, it's a wicked weapon.
j-rod said:Last I heard was late 2009... Wilcox is supposed to the the stateside contractor/builder (assembler) for HK on this project. HK and Wilcox are both very tight-lipped on the subject. "In theory" - parts are going to be mfgd in Germany (mostly), to be finished stateside... If the part is finshed in the US, it becomes a "US mfgd part" - for 922r reasons. SIG is doing the same thing w/the SIG-556 (at least the barrels). The 556 barrel blanks are mfgd overseas, but finished (cut/crowned/chambered/etc) here - making them "US-made."
As for HK actually being able to make this happen and put this kick-ass weapon system into "civilian" hands... I'll believe it when I see it :neutral:
So I understood.Budoka34, the MR223 was built to conform to German laws, not US laws.
It's HK. :neutral:Rasper said:Whats so good about the 416?
Damn... You and Slinger beat me to it... :lol:dagamore said:![]()
Yeah, so all this reminded me of an awesome post by Correia:
"In a world of compromises, some people put the bullets in the magazine backwards...
But it doesn't matter, because our gun is on the cover of the Rainbow Six video games. Look how cool that SEAL coming out of the water looks... If you buy a $2,000 SOCOM, you will be that cool of an operator too. And chicks will dig you.
At HK, we stuck a piston on an AR15, just like a bunch of other companies have done, dating back to about 1969. However ours is better, because we refuse to sell it to civillians. Because you suck, and we hate you.
Our XM8 is the greatest rifle ever developed. It may melt, and it doesn't fit any accesories known to man, but that is your fault. If you were a real operator, you would love it. Once again, look at Rainbow Six, that G36 sure is cool isn't it? Yeah, you know you want one.
And by the way, check out our new HK45. We decided that humans don't need to release the magazine with their thumbs. If you were a really manly teutonic operator, you would be able to reach the controls. Plus we've fired 100,000,000 rounds through one with zero malfunctions, and that was while it was buried in a lake of molten lava, on the moon. If you don't believe us, it is because you aren't a real operator.
By the way, our cheap, mass-produced, stamped sheet metal guns like the G3 and MP5 are the bestest things ever, and totally worth asinine scalpers prices, but note that cheap, mass-produced, stamped sheet metal guns from other countries are commie garbage(ak-47). Not that it matters, because you're civillians, so we won't sell them to you anyway. Because you suck, and we hate you, but we know you'll be back. We can beat you down like a trailer park wife, but you'll come back, you always do.
Buy our stuff.
Sincerely
HK Marketing Department
You Still Suck and We Still Hate YOU!"
Templer,Budoka, we can certainly start a thread if you want. I'll ask Mark5pt56 to chime in with his observations and another member and a staff guy on M4Carbine, GotM4, has a PWS he's been pretty happy with.
German laws are not any different then US laws in regards to semis.. They sell and make ARs there that are identical to US market stuff.Budoka34 said:So I understood.Budoka34, the MR223 was built to conform to German laws, not US laws.
Would you consider starting another thread on the ADC system upper you mentioned.
The PWS system has been on the top of my list for nearly a year and I'd love to compare notes on the
Thanks. I just laughed so hard I shit myself ..and I heard the moon lava test was for real !dagamore said:![]()
Yeah, so all this reminded me of an awesome post by Correia:
"In a world of compromises, some people put the bullets in the magazine backwards...
But it doesn't matter, because our gun is on the cover of the Rainbow Six video games. Look how cool that SEAL coming out of the water looks... If you buy a $2,000 SOCOM, you will be that cool of an operator too. And chicks will dig you.
At HK, we stuck a piston on an AR15, just like a bunch of other companies have done, dating back to about 1969. However ours is better, because we refuse to sell it to civillians. Because you suck, and we hate you.
Our XM8 is the greatest rifle ever developed. It may melt, and it doesn't fit any accesories known to man, but that is your fault. If you were a real operator, you would love it. Once again, look at Rainbow Six, that G36 sure is cool isn't it? Yeah, you know you want one.
And by the way, check out our new HK45. We decided that humans don't need to release the magazine with their thumbs. If you were a really manly teutonic operator, you would be able to reach the controls. Plus we've fired 100,000,000 rounds through one with zero malfunctions, and that was while it was buried in a lake of molten lava, on the moon. If you don't believe us, it is because you aren't a real operator.
By the way, our cheap, mass-produced, stamped sheet metal guns like the G3 and MP5 are the bestest things ever, and totally worth asinine scalpers prices, but note that cheap, mass-produced, stamped sheet metal guns from other countries are commie garbage(ak-47). Not that it matters, because you're civillians, so we won't sell them to you anyway. Because you suck, and we hate you, but we know you'll be back. We can beat you down like a trailer park wife, but you'll come back, you always do.
Buy our stuff.
Sincerely
HK Marketing Department
You Still Suck and We Still Hate YOU!"
What calibers are they going to offer? Im in the market for a .308 or 6.5 Grendel.Templar said:Now then, if you're looking for a quality gas piston upper for an AR or M16, I'd look VERY seriously at the ADC uppers that will be available shortly.