they poo poo. do not waste your money.
Atlantic Firearms Has Complete Tula AKM Rifles For Sale.
Atlantic firearms is offering complete tula akm 47 rifles for sale built from kits 1960 to 74 ithink.builds look great on childress receivers correct markings and matching numbers.price is $2200 which is not bad considering kits are selling for 16 to 18 hundred alone.i asked if i could get a certian year but they said no hand select.
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why do you think they are poo poo?have you seen any?i was figuring,kit $1700,barrel $200,matching receiver $200 with ffl transfer,$800 build price comes to about $2900.even if you build it yourself just parts are $2100.they poo poo. do not waste your money.
Probably comparable to the PSA Tula builds, very nice for those of us who are not ready to build our own. I have a Tula from PSA, pics and stats on this site, love it. Blind poo pooing means FOS.
i saw what they posted on youtube and their website. these rifles big doo doo. barely worth their value as parts after what they've done to them. painted over trunnions, typical inconsistent rivets, wrong receivers, removed OG muzzle devices and the best part, they don't include the original special Tula pistol grips. the early kits they had would have had the early rare wood grips too. Laughable.
Fake USA made receivers for Tulas is a "lesser of two evils" choice as there is not a good option regardless. Childers, spot welds are on par with the size of OG Tula, but then they lack the all important squared pin embossings that really distinguish pre-74 Tula's from Izhmash counterparts. ReCreator has the squared embossing receivers.
A good value on paper does not equate and actual good value investment which will hold its value. A refurb tula AKM kit (from what I've seen them post, most the kits appear to be refurbs) should run between $1300-1600 at this point if you aren't buying from a scalper, antoher $150 or so for a receiver, $500-$700 for a build, $150-$300 depending on what barrel you use (assuming USA, Polish or Romy barrel). So for a little more over $2200, on the higher side of said prices, you will actually have a much more quality piece which will retain its value, retain its OG parts and look a hell of a lot better than atlantic junk.
So many people have bought atlantic and PSA builds over the years, get on the forums, then regret not doing it the right way. Someone willing to spend $2200 is absolutely willing to spend a hair more.
Fake USA made receivers for Tulas is a "lesser of two evils" choice as there is not a good option regardless. Childers, spot welds are on par with the size of OG Tula, but then they lack the all important squared pin embossings that really distinguish pre-74 Tula's from Izhmash counterparts. ReCreator has the squared embossing receivers.
A good value on paper does not equate and actual good value investment which will hold its value. A refurb tula AKM kit (from what I've seen them post, most the kits appear to be refurbs) should run between $1300-1600 at this point if you aren't buying from a scalper, antoher $150 or so for a receiver, $500-$700 for a build, $150-$300 depending on what barrel you use (assuming USA, Polish or Romy barrel). So for a little more over $2200, on the higher side of said prices, you will actually have a much more quality piece which will retain its value, retain its OG parts and look a hell of a lot better than atlantic junk.
So many people have bought atlantic and PSA builds over the years, get on the forums, then regret not doing it the right way. Someone willing to spend $2200 is absolutely willing to spend a hair more.
Russian Tula AKM Rifle - AtlanticFirearms.com
Russian Tula AKM Rifle is a unique and collectible AKM Rifle built using an original Russian Tula AKM parts kit along with a Childers Guns CG1 receiver.
atlanticfirearms.com
I feel bad for people coming late in the game paying over 2k.
You make a lot of good points. The reality of it is that we can never have an original rifle. We are not allowed here . So for a lot of people who do not have the skills that are the knowledge to build their own or even have their kits set out to be built this is a good alternative for them. I don't look at Russian AKs as an investment or any aK as an investment, I never did. I was interested in holding a piece of History and bringing that piece of history back to life. That's why they call it AK enthusiasts not AK investors. As you know Atlantic has to make their rifles 922r compliant. So all someone has to do is buy a wooden pistol grip or a bake light pistol grip off GunBroker or the boards here to make it look original after they buy the rifle. But you probably know that already. Everybody has their own opinion and that's okay this is mine.i saw what they posted on youtube and their website. these rifles big doo doo. barely worth their value as parts after what they've done to them. painted over trunnions, typical inconsistent rivets, wrong receivers, removed OG muzzle devices and the best part, they don't include the original special Tula pistol grips. the early kits they had would have had the early rare wood grips too. Laughable.
Fake USA made receivers for Tulas is a "lesser of two evils" choice as there is not a good option regardless. Childers, spot welds are on par with the size of OG Tula, but then they lack the all important squared pin embossings that really distinguish pre-74 Tula's from Izhmash counterparts. ReCreator has the squared embossing receivers.
A good value on paper does not equate and actual good value investment which will hold its value. A refurb tula AKM kit (from what I've seen them post, most the kits appear to be refurbs) should run between $1300-1600 at this point if you aren't buying from a scalper, antoher $150 or so for a receiver, $500-$700 for a build, $150-$300 depending on what barrel you use (assuming USA, Polish or Romy barrel). So for a little more over $2200, on the higher side of said prices, you will actually have a much more quality piece which will retain its value, retain its OG parts and look a hell of a lot better than atlantic junk.
So many people have bought atlantic and PSA builds over the years, get on the forums, then regret not doing it the right way. Someone willing to spend $2200 is absolutely willing to spend a hair more.
Most important part of this is whether the purchaser is happy with their rifle. If we are splitting hairs on all original details, then all datails matter, including original parts and function such as receivers and select fire. With our 922R compliance and NFA regulations, this is not easily achieved. However, a working man can own a nice functional piece of history for a fair price by way of Atlantic or PSA or other builders. I appreciate the very knowledgeable purists on this site and definitely look forward to a time when my love for the AK can be increased by building my own. For most people, the same goes for classic cars, trucks, and motorcycles. Too hard to find and/or afford originals so remakes with some original parts are appreciated. I'd love to share pics of my accurate build some day with Vlado.
they poo poo. do not waste your money.
What is off about them? I've never purchased an Atlantic MFG firearm, but they have always interested me.
I mean not everyone needs to buy a gun as an investment. Some people like to actually shoot their firearms and if they run they run then. Not everything needs to sit in a closet for years and years. In addition sure maybe they are refurbs but that are the ones they could get their hands on. With sanctions and the state of the world its not like Russian kits are easy to bring in. A lot of companies dont want to be in hot water for touching Russian made stuff even if it is not directly coming out of Russia.A good value on paper does not equate and actual good value investment which will hold its value. A refurb tula AKM kit (from what I've seen them post, most the kits appear to be refurbs) which will retain its value, retain its OG parts and look a hell of a lot better than atlantic junk.
As long as their gun holds up and runs reliably it would be considered good in my books. If you want a true 1:1 clone then just build one yourself or have it sent off to a profesional with all the correct parts.
However, a working man can own a nice functional piece of history for a fair price by way of
I would not call $2,200 for a rifle a "Working Mans" rifle price.
To be fair, the Atlantic offering looks to be much better than what PSA was putting out, but you would think the least they could do is put the original pistol grip in the box though. Personally I wouldn't want one of these since I can get / already got 100% original minty kits. Vlado is right, if you're going to already be into it 2.2k, just spend a little more and get yourself one put together the right way.
It’s almost like you are going from forum to forum crapping on a rifle you do you own or intend on owning.i saw what they posted on youtube and their website. these rifles big doo doo. barely worth their value as parts after what they've done to them. painted over trunnions, typical inconsistent rivets, wrong receivers, removed OG muzzle devices and the best part, they don't include the original special Tula pistol grips. the early kits they had would have had the early rare wood grips too. Laughable.
Fake USA made receivers for Tulas is a "lesser of two evils" choice as there is not a good option regardless. Childers, spot welds are on par with the size of OG Tula, but then they lack the all important squared pin embossings that really distinguish pre-74 Tula's from Izhmash counterparts. ReCreator has the squared embossing receivers.
A good value on paper does not equate and actual good value investment which will hold its value. A refurb tula AKM kit (from what I've seen them post, most the kits appear to be refurbs) should run between $1300-1600 at this point if you aren't buying from a scalper, antoher $150 or so for a receiver, $500-$700 for a build, $150-$300 depending on what barrel you use (assuming USA, Polish or Romy barrel). So for a little more over $2200, on the higher side of said prices, you will actually have a much more quality piece which will retain its value, retain its OG parts and look a hell of a lot better than atlantic junk.
So many people have bought atlantic and PSA builds over the years, get on the forums, then regret not doing it the right way. Someone willing to spend $2200 is absolutely willing to spend a hair more.
Neither are $70,000 trucks and boats but we see average working class with them all the time. It's about priorities.I would not call $2,200 for a rifle a "Working Mans" rifle price.
Its always ironic how hard people try to resist free advice and wisdom put their way on topics they know very little about. This thread is a great example of the inmates running the asylum. If someone wants to spend $2200 on a sub-par built rifle thats missing critical aspects that were included in the original kit and will not hold its value over a quality, correct-built kit, please go for it. My sincerest apologies for once again trying to look out for new collectors who fall for crapper builds like PSA and Atlantic.It’s almost like you are going from forum to forum crapping on a rifle you do you own or intend on owning.
“Free advice” that nobody asked for, given forcefully. Yeah, thanks. We get it you are not a fan.
As has been said repeatedly the parts alone are nearly worth what these built rifles cost. To say they are “poo poo” or a bad purchase is absurd without some actual data to prove the point.
But you don’t own one, so aside from some opinions on minor visual details, you have contributed nothing other than baseless opinions on build quality.
As has been said repeatedly the parts alone are nearly worth what these built rifles cost. To say they are “poo poo” or a bad purchase is absurd without some actual data to prove the point.
But you don’t own one, so aside from some opinions on minor visual details, you have contributed nothing other than baseless opinions on build quality.
Its always ironic how hard people try to resist free advice and wisdom put their way on topics they know very little about. This thread is a great example of the inmates running the asylum. If someone wants to spend $2200 on a sub-par built rifle thats missing critical aspects that were included in the original kit and will not hold its value over a quality, correct-built kit, please go for it. My sincerest apologies for once again trying to look out for new collectors who fall for crapper builds like PSA and Atlantic.
Vlado has never contributed anything? You must be new here bub lol“Free advice” that nobody asked for, given forcefully. Yeah, thanks. We get it you are not a fan.
As has been said repeatedly the parts alone are nearly worth what these built rifles cost. To say they are “poo poo” or a bad purchase is absurd without some actual data to prove the point.
But you don’t own one, so aside from some opinions on minor visual details, you have contributed nothing other than baseless opinions on build quality.
This.Vlado has never contributed anything? You must be new here bub lol
When Vlado or other established members post specific info on topics they specialize in, it is hard not to learn something. Is that not why we are here?
Tossing around the "purist" insult means nothing, unless you want to attempt to justify an incorrect build and its price. Getting miffed when a member points out clear facts is not cool.
The "Rare, investment, collectible or original" is gone from these. They really should have just offered them as unmessed with kits.
I would have bought a few. Oh well.
I would have liked to purchase just the kits as well. Seems hard to find these days. They were running $1699 when I last shopped. I would like to know what recommendations you all have for the Tula or other Russian kits. What receiver, Barrel, etc.? Retiring in the next 15 months and will finally have time to build my own.
To this thread.Vlado has never contributed anything? You must be new here bub lol
You must be new to reading, bub. lol
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