[suprasonic]

I’m more for “Congress Congress” than gun control. Each one of these clowns goes in well-off and leaves multi-millionaires. Government services was never meant to be endless and ultra-profitable, and what’s more, they are near untouchable. It’s like the ultimate grift on the people.

 

[esh21167]

The bill says that we would not be allowed to own anything listed.

So tell me Mr, or Miss, or Mrs, or what ever you call yourself government representative, who will be the poor person who will go door to door to collect these alleged assault weapons? How many police agencies will violate their oath of office as you did to risk not coming home to their family to make you the so-caller representative of the people happy?

How does the justice department allow these goons to continually violate our rights? Rhetorical question.

I'll admit I have not read the bill, but some commentaries on it. It seems to make illegal 'possession.' Is there 'grandfathering' of items already owned?

 

[10Gauge]

I'll admit I have not read the bill, but some commentaries on it. It seems to make illegal 'possession.' Is there 'grandfathering' of items already owned?

Even if the answer is 'yes' does it matter?

You can't pass them on, so it's de-facto forfeiture once the owners pass away. Actually it would be safer for them if there was a grandfather clause simply to make it easier for the government. Take advantage of the "I got mine" people and confiscate the illegal items from the heirs who might not know, care, and who definitely won't resist. No grandfather clause might spark something they're not equipped to handle yet.

 

[FloridaAKM]

It won't pass the Senate!

 

[10Gauge]

It won't pass the Senate!

 

[Olle]

Even if the answer is 'yes' does it matter?

You can't pass them on, so it's de-facto forfeiture once the owners pass away. Actually it would be safer for them if there was a grandfather clause simply to make it easier for the government. Take advantage of the "I got mine" people and confiscate the illegal items from the heirs who might not know, care, and who definitely won't resist. No grandfather clause might spark something they're not equipped to handle yet.

Didn't think about that, but that would be the sneaky way to do it for sure. That would fit well into the liberal MO as well, just slowly chip away at it until there's nothing left. That's why the RINOs are the most dangerous politicians right now, they'll buy into this "bipartisan common sense" BS without understanding what's really going on.

 

[10Gauge]

The RINOs know exactly what they're doing. What are their constituents gonna do about it? Vote democrat? not vote? Vote 3rd party?? Nobody in power wants the citizens to have effective means of taking them out of power, at least if they have evil intentions. And boy howdy do they have evil intentions. There's plenty of pork, sweetheart deals, insider trading, lobbyist money, skims and other kickbacks to be had if they just 'play ball' its for the children after all.. that is when they're not being elbowed out of the way or used as target practice to further an agenda.

Notice how the left never compromises on anything? They always demand that the republicans bend the knee and work a 'bipartisan' agreement whenever they're not in control of all 3 branches. We get fucked the hardest when all 3 are "D" and that's what we get. No talk or negotiation there.. my way or the highway TO HELL.

 

[esh21167]

Even if the answer is 'yes' does it matter?

You can't pass them on, so it's de-facto forfeiture once the owners pass away. Actually it would be safer for them if there was a grandfather clause simply to make it easier for the government. Take advantage of the "I got mine" people and confiscate the illegal items from the heirs who might not know, care, and who definitely won't resist. No grandfather clause might spark something they're not equipped to handle yet.

Yeah, that does makes it far more evil than it even appears on the surface. No way to pass on or sell.

 

[Olle]

The RINOs know exactly what they're doing. What are their constituents gonna do about it? Vote democrat? not vote? Vote 3rd party?? Nobody in power wants the citizens to have effective means of taking them out of power, at least if they have evil intentions. And boy howdy do they have evil intentions. There's plenty of pork, sweetheart deals, insider trading, lobbyist money, skims and other kickbacks to be had if they just 'play ball' its for the children after all.. that is when they're not being elbowed out of the way or used as target practice to further an agenda.

Notice how the left never compromises on anything? They always demand that the republicans bend the knee and work a 'bipartisan' agreement whenever they're not in control of all 3 branches. We get fucked the hardest when all 3 are "D" and that's what we get. No talk or negotiation there.. my way or the highway TO HELL.

Yep, I have noticed that the liberal's so called "bipartisan agreements" are more or less "agree with our terms, or else there won't be an agreement at all". I immigrated from a socialist country almost 25 years ago, and what I see now makes me sick. Like they say: "Americans don't have other countries they can flee to". That's the main reason to fight back, once the US as we know it is gone you won't have anywhere to go. That's when you have to bend over and take it. Without lubrication.

 

[Hunter1]

Looks like our commuist left may win this one. The weak gop caved in. Reminds me what some communist leader said years ago. Come let us reason together, as long as it's my way.

 

[10Gauge]

Import Ban on Assault Rifles Becomes Permanent (Published 1989)

www.nytimes.com

 

[Papa AK47]

 

[themousethatroared]

The confiscation upon death of the owner would necessitate a list of all firearms and who owns them. So we have registration, door-to-door search, or required search every dead person's home. They could require a tax stamp for every firearm to get it out and use it at the range or upon stop-and-frisk. That way they make money, and force registration.

The lawyer chose the word "can". Any firearm that "can" accept a magazine holding 15 or more rounds. Not designed for, comes with a magazine holding from the factory, or even available aftermarket. So that is everything that it would be physically possible to McGyver or build with an unlimited budget or resources.

So, this is really the "Revolver and Single Shot Preservation Act", because there won't be anything else.

Will it pass the senate?

Well, they will never:

...lock everything down and close everything but the big box stores, forcing everyone to stay at home and inside.
...force everyone to wear masks.
...force everyone to take a vaccine and make everyone show proof of vaccination to go anywhere or do anything.
...force everyone to throw away their gasoline cars, force them to buy electric cars, and then ban privately owned cars altogether.
...not only sell insect meat in stores, but take steps to ban mammal meat (excluding cannibalism), to force everyone to eat the bugs.
...put legislation in place to put the who in totalitarian control of the nation if they declare a global medical emergency (which is the ongoing state of being since March of 2020).

 

[Olle]

The amounts of tragic boating accidents will increase dramatically... God bless the 80% builds.

 

[Wasteland Warrior]

The confiscation upon death of the owner would necessitate a list of all firearms and who owns them. So we have registration, door-to-door search, or required search every dead person's home. They could require a tax stamp for every firearm to get it out and use it at the range or upon stop-and-frisk. That way they make money, and force registration.

The lawyer chose the word "can". Any firearm that "can" accept a magazine holding 15 or more rounds. Not designed for, comes with a magazine holding from the factory, or even available aftermarket. So that is everything that it would be physically possible to McGyver or build with an unlimited budget or resources.

So, this is really the "Revolver and Single Shot Preservation Act", because there won't be anything else.

Will it pass the senate?

Well, they will never:

...lock everything down and close everything but the big box stores, forcing everyone to stay at home and inside.
...force everyone to wear masks.
...force everyone to take a vaccine and make everyone show proof of vaccination to go anywhere or do anything.
...force everyone to throw away their gasoline cars, force them to buy electric cars, and then ban privately owned cars altogether.
...not only sell insect meat in stores, but take steps to ban mammal meat (excluding cannibalism), to force everyone to eat the bugs.
...put legislation in place to put the who in totalitarian control of the nation if they declare a global medical emergency (which is the ongoing state of being since March of 2020).

And even worse, if they want to get rid of a specific firearm they can "special order" magazines to say "oh look it 'can' take these. Also, insect "meat" is a tough sell not only because of the "alien" nature of insects but because they have a lot of chitin in them and humans can't digest it. Probably a no go there at least.

Also, love your username, all hail Grand Fenwick.

 

[Olle]

...not only sell insect meat in stores, but take steps to ban mammal meat (excluding cannibalism), to force everyone to eat the bugs.

Ironically, "Soylent Green" is set in 2022.

 

[esh21167]

Ironically, "Soylent Green" is set in 2022.

They need to get moving then...

 

[Wasteland Warrior]

They need to get moving then...

Let's be honest, this is not the future I wanted. We're getting all the shitty parts of cyberpunk and none of the advantages. Synthetic foodstuffs but no interesting weapons or techno music? No, thank you!

Switching gears back, here's to hoping this thing doesn't make it over the wall.

Looks like our commuist left may win this one. The weak gop caved in. Reminds me what some communist leader said years ago. Come let us reason together, as long as it's my way.

I know it's probably an unsurprising attitude for them to have, but...what the actual fuck...

 

[twobyfour]

Something tells me that machine shops are going to get a lot of interesting requests in the near future if this keeps up. “Hey man, I need a long tube, made out of carbon steel, with these spiral grooves cut inside…for…my…lawnmower.”

Either that or people are going to unlock some very interesting firearms designs out of pure boredom and oppression.

 

[Robert2888]

They don't understand the enormous practical problems associated with this. First off: If the 2A sanctuaries do what they have promised to do, there will be no help from local/state law enforcement. Second: They have severely underestimated the number of die hards that will stand their ground when the "collectors" come. I suspect that Ruby Ridge and Waco were picnics compared to what awaits them. There's no way they can pull it off without help from a lot of people and a lot of violence, and I don't believe they will ever be able to recruit enough people willing to do that. Maybe in CA and other states where people are used to bend over and take it, but I'm afraid this could turn into a very violent operation in other states.

Im not sure how many here are familiar with the heir in waiting, Queen Kamala and her private police force she ran and oversaw while AG in California. Make no mistake in thinking that these people in power would hesitate in ordering the confiscation of all privately owned firearms. How you ask? By using the powers to deputize street gangs that will be connected to the identity politics of “Democrats” in Congress and statehouses. Think about it, all the oppressed “youth” now has legal employment and all the evil pale skinned “racists” are dealt with…permanently. Rest assured this isn’t nowhere near as far fetched as it may seem.