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Anyone heard of such a thing? The closest I found was the Arsenal SA M7SG which is milled gun with green furniture and a muzzle break...

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The "S" is the old standard for an optic railed gun, hence; SA M-7S. These were post ban models. Now, if the gun is so equipped with an optic rail, it rates an "R." Ex: SA M-7A1R or SA M-7R.

The only other time you'll see an "S" on Arsenal weapons, is when the variant is an underfolder.
 

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The "S" is the old standard for an optic railed gun, hence; SA M-7S. These were post ban models. Now, if the gun is so equipped with an optic rail, it rates an "R." Ex: SA M-7A1R or SA M-7R.

The only other time you'll see an "S" on Arsenal weapons, is when the variant is an underfolder.
That's what I thought. I'm getting one that has been de-banned.

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That's what I thought. I'm getting one that has been de-banned.

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There is a small chance this isn't the case. They could have had a receiver marked "S" as the ban expired and made a genuine factory no-ban gun.

I have seen many, many variations that are "unofficial": no-ban Carbines with the same skinny bolts as the ban-style SLR101's, SA M7's with the shark gill muzzle brake AND the SA M7 Classic wood furniture, and a couple of other variations IIRC. (Atlantic Firearms had a picture of the SA M7 "Blondie" on their site for quite a while).

Your SA M7S just "might" be one of these oddballs.

You might be able to call Arsenal, give them the serial number, and ask if the rifle was made as a ban or no-ban style. The date on the owner's manual may tell you too: if it's before the ban expired, then the gun has been "unbanned."
 

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Zane Zackerly said:
Spooky130 said:
That's what I thought. I'm getting one that has been de-banned.

Spooky

There is a small chance this isn't the case. They could have had a receiver marked "S" as the ban expired and made a genuine factory no-ban gun.

I have seen many, many variations that are "unofficial": no-ban Carbines with the same skinny bolts as the ban-style SLR101's, SA M7's with the shark gill muzzle brake AND the SA M7 Classic wood furniture, and a couple of other variations IIRC. (Atlantic Firearms had a picture of the SA M7 "Blondie" on their site for quite a while).

Your SA M7S just "might" be one of these oddballs.

You might be able to call Arsenal, give them the serial number, and ask if the rifle was made as a ban or no-ban style. The date on the owner's manual may tell you too: if it's before the ban expired, then the gun has been "unbanned."
Thanks guys...

From the pictures I think it may be an oddball gun. It has a 74 style FSB and the M60 style flash hider. It appears that the bayonet lugs are still there as well. I'll post some pics when it does arrive. Bought it through Gunbroker and it is claimed as NIB.

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Mine's an S and it's post ban configured, it came from Arsenal that way. I'm thinking they were just using up the old receivers then made the R batch ...
 

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From the pictures I think it may be an oddball gun. It has a 74 style FSB and the M60 style flash hider. It appears that the bayonet lugs are still there as well. I'll post some pics when it does arrive. Bought it through Gunbroker and it is claimed as NIB.

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Sounds like a SA M7 A1R built on a left over (read that "already engraved with model number") receiver.
 

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The rifle is now in my hands! What a great gun. 100% NIB with the only wear being underneath the selector switch and just a little bit on the front of the mag catch.

From what I can tell this rifle was built as a no-ban gun. The accessory and bayonet lugs are there. The finish on the gas block and front sight block match the rest of the rifle plus there are no marks around either one. I'm thinking this was marked with an S and built after the ban expired to M7A1R standards.

I did not get a manual with this one. Can someone tell me the 922(r) compliance parts? All the furniture is US made.



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Sometimes they put a Bulgarian trigger in the rifle. I noticed all of my SA M7R's came with Bulgarian triggers, too.
 

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Spooky130 said:
I did not get a manual with this one. Can someone tell me the 922(r) compliance parts? All the furniture is US made.



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That's what I was thinking... I'll check the trigger like ZZ suggested. And I doubt the receiver is made in the USA...

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Spooky130 said:
Templar said:
Spooky130 said:
I did not get a manual with this one. Can someone tell me the 922(r) compliance parts? All the furniture is US made.

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That's what I was thinking... I'll check the trigger like ZZ suggested. And I doubt the receiver is made in the USA...

Spooky
all SA M and SAS M receivers are made in USA...
 

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I had a factory "NO-BAN" Arsenal SAM-7 "S" marked rifle. Built after 2004, with a 2003 date on the receiver. Side rail, with muzzl threads, bayonet lug. Don't know how common they are, but I have seen a few.
 

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sharpsh00ter said:
Spooky130 said:
Templar said:
Spooky130 said:
I did not get a manual with this one. Can someone tell me the 922(r) compliance parts? All the furniture is US made.

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That's what I was thinking... I'll check the trigger like ZZ suggested. And I doubt the receiver is made in the USA...

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all SA M and SAS M receivers are made in USA...

Receivers are definitely US. ALL M5 and M7 receivers are US made. The SLR series use foreign receivers.
 

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Sharpshooter and Templar,

Thanks for the big heads up! I never knew that! So this has 6 to 7 US parts and, IIRC milled guns only need 5, correct? I might swap a couple parts out!

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