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AK vs AR ?
those inaccurate AK47 ? ohh no my friends . more than likely indifferent trigger squeezers . whatever choice you make , dont make it based on any percieved , mechanical accuracy difference . now , nobody is discussing or dissing any ERGONOMIC differences or custom rifles here . please note these are all just RACK GRADE rifles OF THE DAY . they likely all just got examined by a military armorer for suitability for duty . since those days we've learned the simple checks to do for wildshooting AKs that solves the problems 90% of the time .
below are the tests done by C.E.Harris and also with the APG back in the late 80s . i discoverd it in a google years ago and had to clean up the document as all the charts were jamed to the left and rammed together and there were obvious (too me) typo errors . i have secondhand rumor from someone who claims to have been part of these tests , that it was shot off foxhole sandbags and sandbaged prone and that once they got off the sandbags nearly all weapon / accuracy diffs vanished . this shocked the livin shit out of the fellows with stars however , testing was done with EXPERT SHOOTERS , not your average joe and certinly not 3rd world doofuses .
Mr.Harris starts out with :
also , there are many quality AK designs that can do much better than a run of the mill MADDI . the bulgies will group more like the standard M16A1 or AK74 seen below WITH AMMO THEY PREFER :
get FREDS "GUIDE TO BECOMEING A RIFLEMAN" . best few bucks you'll ever spend . it got me out of the RIFLE RUT where i was shooting for years without seeing any meaningful improvement . i'm not selling for fred , dont even know him , dont even LIKE the fella from what i read but , his guide will work for ya http://www.fredsm14stocks.com/rifles.asp
nice free article on "common shooting errors" also .
believe me , if you can shoot the 25M AQT well , your well on the way to doing it for real .
the rest of the paper goes like this :
this is important to understand and is the reason why many have trouble hitting with the BIG BLOCKY AK SITES . they are made for a 6 O'clock hold on the target , even a LIGHTGAP 6 O'clock hold if you will . not a "CUT THE CLOCK IN HALF " hold (except on -1- and -2-) . after years of fooling with these things , there is the implication of simple PROPAGANDA IN OPEN SOVIET LITERATURE that C.E.Harris unwhittingly re-tells here with :
more on this latter .
those inaccurate AK47 ? ohh no my friends . more than likely indifferent trigger squeezers . whatever choice you make , dont make it based on any percieved , mechanical accuracy difference . now , nobody is discussing or dissing any ERGONOMIC differences or custom rifles here . please note these are all just RACK GRADE rifles OF THE DAY . they likely all just got examined by a military armorer for suitability for duty . since those days we've learned the simple checks to do for wildshooting AKs that solves the problems 90% of the time .
below are the tests done by C.E.Harris and also with the APG back in the late 80s . i discoverd it in a google years ago and had to clean up the document as all the charts were jamed to the left and rammed together and there were obvious (too me) typo errors . i have secondhand rumor from someone who claims to have been part of these tests , that it was shot off foxhole sandbags and sandbaged prone and that once they got off the sandbags nearly all weapon / accuracy diffs vanished . this shocked the livin shit out of the fellows with stars however , testing was done with EXPERT SHOOTERS , not your average joe and certinly not 3rd world doofuses .
Mr.Harris starts out with :
if he had only read his own article , he woulda learned :
while LAPUA is fine ammo , this HINTS at what we discoverd LATER about these commie guns over the decades , that ALL THESE WEAPONS are ammunition/accuracy sensitive . WHY USE AMMO THAT GIVES WIDE GROUPS IN YOUR WEAPON IF YOU DONT HAVE TO ? buy up a box or 2 of what is readily available and try them all out first !!!
also , there are many quality AK designs that can do much better than a run of the mill MADDI . the bulgies will group more like the standard M16A1 or AK74 seen below WITH AMMO THEY PREFER :
the real differance in weapons accuracy ? go look in the mirror are you an EXPERT SHOOTER ? HOW CAN YOU TELL ? HOW IS IT MEASURED?
get FREDS "GUIDE TO BECOMEING A RIFLEMAN" . best few bucks you'll ever spend . it got me out of the RIFLE RUT where i was shooting for years without seeing any meaningful improvement . i'm not selling for fred , dont even know him , dont even LIKE the fella from what i read but , his guide will work for ya http://www.fredsm14stocks.com/rifles.asp
nice free article on "common shooting errors" also .
believe me , if you can shoot the 25M AQT well , your well on the way to doing it for real .
the rest of the paper goes like this :
note my bold type .
this is important to understand and is the reason why many have trouble hitting with the BIG BLOCKY AK SITES . they are made for a 6 O'clock hold on the target , even a LIGHTGAP 6 O'clock hold if you will . not a "CUT THE CLOCK IN HALF " hold (except on -1- and -2-) . after years of fooling with these things , there is the implication of simple PROPAGANDA IN OPEN SOVIET LITERATURE that C.E.Harris unwhittingly re-tells here with :
more on this latter .
