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Gonna have some free time this summer and want to redo/finish up a couple builds I’m not completely happy with now that there are better receiver options. Never been a fan of my marcolmar kit built on an Armory ausa receiver. I ordered a ReCreator 80% KP with AIMS embossment, left off the markings and detents as I’d like to do them myself.
I’m seeing different styles of markings for these..different sizes infinity marks and numbers. Wondering which would be more correct for this year kit(2008), was there a transition year or difference between what import vs. military receivers got? I’d like to build this as a military rifle.
Here’s some examples I’ve found here searching:











Where the AIMS experts at ;) I’m going blind reading and staring at pics all day trying to figure this all out...refresh my memories please:

I’ve seen mention that Romania built some with a blonde fixed stock set. Is this true and would it be blonde buttstock..blonde lower dong..bakelite or blonde upper? Just curious as I’m not a wire folder fan and wouldn’t mind a fixed buttstock for shooting.

I’ve also seen it mentioned that the bakelite lower wasn’t used by actual military, and then someone else saying they’ve seen pics of them in use and that the early ones used them. I’ve never found the pics and wonder if anyone has them to post or opinions to share? I use my dong for shooting just to limit wear and heat on the bakelite lower but I’d like to see pics if they’re out there.

Also on slings..is one green more correct than the other? I have a stiff green sling now but there’s the real floppy ones too.

Also also mine has a scope rail now but from what I’ve read the military versions did not or there were very few with them. Was it an export thing only to have the rail or is it acceptable either way? Not familiar at all with Romanians optics options but it’s easier to add the rail now than later if it matters.

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Looks like I’m rolling with this :D Ordered custom with no marking or detents but got em anyway. No worries...already looks 100x better than the ausa now
 

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Not much to tell, imported by DIG in VA beach. Made at Cugir. It looked like this originally

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But now looks like this

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unfortunately I have not got it to the range yet and it may be awhile before I do.

The receiver is dated 97, I think they were brought in about 2000. I have it on quarantine duty with a pufgun mag in it right now.
 

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I remember in 2005-2007 viewing pictures on militaryphotos.net of Romanian PAmd-86 rifles in Iraq.
A US servicemen standing with Romanian servicemen examining their 5.45 rifles in detail.
 

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That rings a bell..they may have been shared here as well, sucks so many photos posted here were eaten by photobucket
 

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I need to search my archive for those militaryphotos .
actually that site went away because DOD and the SD had issues with unauthorized use of photographs in a conflict.

or one can believe the story on the web that Getty images had a cow or the bickering between the mods caused it to implode.
 

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Not much to tell, imported by DIG in VA beach. Made at Cugir. It looked like this originally

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But now looks like this

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unfortunately I have not got it to the range yet and it may be awhile before I do.

The receiver is dated 97, I think they were brought in about 2000. I have it on quarantine duty with a pufgun mag in it right now.
Beautiful.

They rifles did actually show up on the US market in 1997.

I remember fingering the first one I saw at an Astrohall show.

I was so close to buying it but didn't know of an ammo supply at the time.
 

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Gonna have some free time this summer and want to redo/finish up a couple builds I’m not completely happy with now that there are better receiver options. Never been a fan of my marcolmar kit built on an Armory ausa receiver. I ordered a ReCreator 80% KP with AIMS embossment, left off the markings and detents as I’d like to do them myself.
I’m seeing different styles of markings for these..different sizes infinity marks and numbers. Wondering which would be more correct for this year kit(2008), was there a transition year or difference between what import vs. military receivers got? I’d like to build this as a military rifle.
Here’s some examples I’ve found here searching:











Where the AIMS experts at ;) I’m going blind reading and staring at pics all day trying to figure this all out...refresh my memories please:

I’ve seen mention that Romania built some with a blonde fixed stock set. Is this true and would it be blonde buttstock..blonde lower dong..bakelite or blonde upper? Just curious as I’m not a wire folder fan and wouldn’t mind a fixed buttstock for shooting.

I’ve also seen it mentioned that the bakelite lower wasn’t used by actual military, and then someone else saying they’ve seen pics of them in use and that the early ones used them. I’ve never found the pics and wonder if anyone has them to post or opinions to share? I use my dong for shooting just to limit wear and heat on the bakelite lower but I’d like to see pics if they’re out there.

Also on slings..is one green more correct than the other? I have a stiff green sling now but there’s the real floppy ones too.

Also also mine has a scope rail now but from what I’ve read the military versions did not or there were very few with them. Was it an export thing only to have the rail or is it acceptable either way? Not familiar at all with Romanians optics options but it’s easier to add the rail now than later if it matters.

Porn time:




Dat foregrip...
 

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When you ordered the receiver did you choose the Khyber option with the a la cart choices? Seems like the best way to get a Recreator without markings.
 

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Yeah I did that with all 3 but the AIMS one came marked anyway. The Khyber option was the way to go tho price and feature wise.

Btw that top one is their Egyptian dimple and the middle one is their Bulgarian 74 I’m gonna use for my Bulgarian AKS-74U kit. The Bulgarian dimple is closest to my Maadi’s so I emailed Matt to see if I could possibly get that style dimple on a 7.62 receiver with the other Egyptian features..no trigger humps, no selector dimple on the left side..and 4 left side spot welds instead of the 3 in the bulgy. Will see what he says
 

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I’m tired of sitting on my last Arabic kit and want to build it. Going Khyber Pass with it. Those damn dimples tho hahaha I know you feel my pain

 

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Nice, I have a couple kits that are going Khyber. A Polish UF and a Romy fixed.

AF had a sale on the Nodak receivers moons ago and I picked up a couple. Gonna use those since I got them.

I luv me sum Khyber.
 

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Hell yeah Scotty, khybers are certainly an interesting variant..always wanted one and never got around to it. Will be looking out for your builds ;)


Steve I’ve got some word back from Matt on the Egyptians...

“with the current batch of Egyptian receiver blanks the new mag dimple has been lengthened and looks phenomenal! Just finished some up and can get a cell phone picture tonite or tomorrow.”

Sounds promising :D
 

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Hell yeah Scotty, khybers are certainly an interesting variant..always wanted one and never got around to it. Will be looking out for your builds ;)


Steve I’ve got some word back from Matt on the Egyptians...

“with the current batch of Egyptian receiver blanks the new mag dimple has been lengthened and looks phenomenal! Just finished some up and can get a cell phone picture tonite or tomorrow.”

Sounds promising :D


If he wants a hard core reviewer I volunteer.

Some time ago I had a brief email chain with Matt at Recreator. I think he got tired of my BS so I didn't go any further.

Maybe you were around when I had these molds made of one of my Intrac Maadi dimples in the hopes that 74U could pull it off. They were just too different.














FWIW there are two Maadi dimple variations. Apparently the dimple got taller in the late 1990's. The kits we have are 1995 and before which is the style in my photos above - long and not that tall. Hopefully Recreator has focused on this earlier style.

The spots welds are typically smaller diameter and deeper on Egyptian than other makers. Hopefully he factors that in.
 

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Yeah he just said lengthened so all my fingers are crossed haha. I do remember you trying to get Dave? to do them right and sending him the sample and such. The struggle was and is real haha. I still cringe when I see a Maadi kit built on a not even close dimple. I got excited yesterday when I held the bulgy 74 rec up to all my maadis and it was pretty damn close..then realized all the other differences and heart sank a little. Plus like Matt said his bulgy 74 dimple is just so deep that to widen them internally enough for a 47 mag would make holes. I’ll definitely post the pics when I get them. Btw your messages are full :p
 
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