I'm sorry JOHNO, I totally missed this question first go around...JOHNO said:Sturmgrenadier,is that the same Afghan era pouch thats still avaliable?
The 6 mag cell/ 4 grenade cell/ Bayo chest pouch I believe wasn't used in Afghanistan unless very late. I haven't seen any documentated pictures showing these in use. I believe this style was used in the early 90s to late 90s untill all the other (nylon) assualt rigs started coming out.
The Russian lifchiki used prominantly in Afghanistan looks just like the ChiCom 3 cell with 2 smaller pouches on each side of the mag cells.
On ChiComs the farthest to the left (if your wearing it) small pouch is rubberized. Russians never rubberized this small pouch.
Theres other distinguishing features that differ between the two also.
Difference in colors.
Chinese pouch uses 1.5" silver colored D-Rings and Russian pouch uses 1.2" black colored D-rings
Chinese pouch waist strap is two sides and ties in middle of back. Russian uses a long ribbon on the right (as worn) that loops through a D-ring on the left (as worn).
Shoulder straps on Chinese are 1.125" wide cotton web and have brown, ersatz leather keepers that are sewn to close the loop. The Russian straps are 1" wide and do not have keepers.
Wooden toggles on Chinese pouch are 1.0625" wide and have pointed ends. Russian toggles are 1" wide and have blunted ends and their diameter is slightly smaller than the Chinese ones.
As I said before, this is one instance that the Russians copied/improved on a ChiCom design. It is my understanding that the Russians started using captured Chinese chest pouches in Afghanistan and thus led to Russian domestic production.