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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    With DTS, the US Army is financing operations by forcing soldiers to borrow money. It is completely and utterly unethical and demonstrates how scummy the Army can be as an institution. It would be much cheaper and more ethical to just issue debit cards with an estimated cost of deployment loaded on them and ask soldiers to apply to refill as needed.
    I agree completely. The Army is essentially borrowing money from soldiers. Soldiers are responsible for payment and their credit gets dinged if they don't. Part of the reason my DTS got so screwed up was the complexity of the system and my lack of computer expertise. Finally, a sharp E-4 took care of it for me!

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    One of my favorite stupid Army rules was the ECP at Camp Arifjan, (Arifjail), Kuwait. I had to remove my shirt, carry a cell phone and an M9 in a shoulder holster. 3rd Army policy believed this ''disguise'' made me blend in with the locals while driving to and from duty locations in country. Trying to get off Arifjail was quite the nut drill compared to getting back on after traveling to one of the other posts in Kuwait. Just a CAC to get on but to get off one had to be led by an O-5, CW-5, E-9, GS-15, or a WG-9 with TDY travel orders, not 2 pages, had to be a front and back copy signed by any one of the fore mentioned ranks. I remember the 2nd shift guard mount relief being turned back because they forgot their ''memo'' authorizing them to replace the day shift at the SPOD (Shipping Port of Debarkation) a couple of exits north on KT 30. I don't miss it.
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    And another thing. What was with the Ugandan Mercenaries checking CAC I.D.s at every DFAC (dining facility), library and MWR (Morale, Welfare and Recreation) building when I came off the road, MSR/ASR? In their 511 knock off uniforms and M4's, who thought it was a good idea to have these contract Mercs guard anything? It really chapped my A more so than the seat of the M1151A1 gun truck!
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    I've recently decided that I'm Irish. I mean....why else would I love red-headed women and Irish whiskey so much?

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    I was in Balad, Camp Anaconda or Camp Sustainer or what ever 3rd COSCOM wanted to call it in summer of '03. I had 2 mechanics stationed at Camp Diamondback when that suicide bomber attacked the DFAC. Fortunately they had already left the DFAC. It was during the time when Command thought is was a very good idea to hire locals because the thinking was they would embrace the US as friends. Needless to say the vetting process of hiring LN's left much to be desired. Achmed would say his cousin Fayeed was "OK" and that was about the extent of it that I gleeaned. We had an incident where one of my unit's 88M's (truck drivers) was returning from sick call. He saw several LN's combing through trash bins. He alerted the MP's who took the LN's in custody. The LN's were found with soldier's family's return addresses on them ripped from care packages. Of course many soldiers did not follow the command policy of destroying all home address material. That soldier's reward was a threatened Article 15 for taking too long to return from sick call based of his time out from the CASH. I can't make this stuff up. Needless to say no one in my unit ever turned in a LN again for anything even blatantly suspicious (risk/reward or toxic command structure, you decide).
    In Balad, I was informed at the daily Battalion BUB (Battle Update Briefing) that the 3rd COSCOM CDR was positioning teams of MP's at different intersections to pull soldiers over if their chin strap was not worn properly. He led several of these traffic/chipstrap traps personally. Now my personal chinstrap on the ''Fritz'' helmet was half cotton canvas and half nylon. The adjusting straps were affixed with proper 1'' wide 100 MPH tape IAW 3rd COSOM's CSM directions. Unfortunately as I sweated in the 120 degree plus heat of July 2003, the cotton part of the chin strap would loosen. But I couldn't adjust it, why you may ask? because it was taped IAW with policy. Generally by morning it would tighten up again. I need to stop reading the emails I sent my wife from 2003-2004.
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    I was stationed there in 08 and ate many times at that DFAC. The cause of the problem was trusting the local nationals without proper checks. After this incident, Arabs weren't even allowed on base to clean toilets without an armed escort.

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    Ironically, the contractors that guarded the shitter detail in most camps I've been consisted of some of the most bulked-up, tatted-up, geardos with "steely-eyed" glares I've ever met. After taking a meal with a group of them in the DFAC once, I was astonished at the enormous egos (and insecurity) they had.

    Once I discovered that, I would subtly taunt them by mocking them with my own gear choices. Up to and including outlandish bright purple shirts, cute "moto" patches and putting "Hello Kitty" stickers all over my weapon and vehicle.

    After one interminably long and pointless discussion which consisted of these meat heads discussing their enormous and expensive watches, I showed up wearing a HUGE Hello Kitty! little girls' watch, on a tactical watch band. Dirty Looks abounded....

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    Funny thing; I was typing the above during a gripping discussion on Army mandatory equipment rebuilding procedures. You see, our maintenance guys are complaining bitterly of receiving brand new equipment, which is then ordered to be shipped to a rebuild facility. We have repeatedly complained about this to USARC, but they continue to issue us orders and force us to turn in these pieces of equipment. About an hour into the discussion, we received an ALARACT which complained about US TURNING IN NEW EQUIPMENT, AS THEY DIRECTED. We are now commanded to NOT turn in new equipment for rebuild and to simultaneously comply with orders requiring us to turn in said new equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    Ironically, the contractors that guarded the shitter detail in most camps I've been consisted of some of the most bulked-up, tatted-up, geardos with "steely-eyed" glares I've ever met. After taking a meal with a group of them in the DFAC once, I was astonished at the enormous egos (and insecurity) they had.

    Once I discovered that, I would subtly taunt them by mocking them with my own gear choices. Up to and including outlandish bright purple shirts, cute "moto" patches and putting "Hello Kitty" stickers all over my weapon and vehicle.

    After one interminably long and pointless discussion which consisted of these meat heads discussing their enormous and expensive watches, I showed up wearing a HUGE Hello Kitty! little girls' watch, on a tactical watch band. Dirty Looks abounded....

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    LOL!!!!! Very funny! One of the Master Sergeants had his wife send him bright pink "Hello Kitty" sheets and mattress covers. His bunk was easily recognizable in the barracks enroute to Iraq. We were USAR guys and this sort of thing drove the active guys crazy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A J View Post
    I was stationed there in 08 and ate many times at that DFAC. The cause of the problem was trusting the local nationals without proper checks. After this incident, Arabs weren't even allowed on base to clean toilets without an armed escort.
    Really? Where was your CHU? I was at the very top of the hill, at the end of the main drag that the DFAC was on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scapegoat762 View Post
    Really? Where was your CHU? I was at the very top of the hill, at the end of the main drag that the DFAC was on.
    My CHU was close to an old abandoned building that looked like a movie theater. I was treated to the scent of burning plastic 24/7 from the garbage dump just outside the wire. I had a very long walk to the DFAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    Forcing soldiers to have that stupid dog tag with "Army Values" written on them. What made it stupid, is that the Chain of Command from the President down to the Battalion Commander routinely violated every single one of them, on a daily basis.

    If your organization has to write down their "values", they do not have any values. Period.
    I noticed this old message and am curious. What are the "Army Values" that they are now putting on the dog tags?

    When I was in the army (1969-1971), IIRC, the dog tags only had stuff like blood type, S/N, name and "religion". Since the army didn't allow atheists or agnostics, mine said "no preference." That was about as close as it came to any "value" on my dog tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonTom View Post
    I noticed this old message and am curious. What are the "Army Values" that they are now putting on the dog tags?

    When I was in the army (1969-1971), IIRC, the dog tags only had stuff like blood type, S/N, name and "religion". Since the army didn't allow atheists or agnostics, mine said "no preference." That was about as close as it came to any "value" on my dog tag.

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    Same here, I spent several years in the Army and got out in 93 and that's all we had on ours.
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    Instead of just staying with Duty, Honor, Country, the Army had to way over complicate it. The first letter of each ''value'' spell the Acronym LDRSHP (Leadership).

    This, like the ROE card (Rules of Engagement) were carried on one's person in addition to but not in lieu of the issued ID tags. (Dog Tags). Generally at Battalion level, policy or memorandum's dictated where the soldier was to wear/keep both items. Example: ROE left breast pocket. The dumbest was in the K-pot above the webbing. Wait a minute while I take my helmet off to read the ROE so I don't get Court Martialed.
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