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    Home Builds & “Grandfathered” Status

    An interesting thought passed my mind at work today. If hypothetically a candidate like Beto defeated Trump in the next election, Democrats had control of the House and Senate, and an assault weapons ban went into effect, I would have to imagine there would be a “Grandfathered” clause similar to the 90’s ban, even more so given the fact that there are now literally millions of AR style rifles among the general public. Besides, we all know such policies are about political posturing and not about solving any real issues anyway. Therefore, this seems the only feasible way such a law could be passed and the candidate would still be able to claim all the glory of defeating the evil gun industry.

    My question is, would the Grandfathered clause include home builds on 80% receivers which are currently perfectly legal as long they are semiautomatic 922r compliant riles which are not made for the purpose of resale?

    How were they treated during the 90’s ban?

    How would you prove it was made prior to such a ban?

    Lastly, would it be wise to go through the FFL process and purchase a 100% receiver for any home build one may currently own as a precaution so that you could theoretically tear down any 80% builds in the months leading to the implementation of such a ban so that you could then rebuild all your expensive parts kits you’ve collected in the following years?

    A proactive step or over thinking things?

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    Not trying to be a jerk, but your asking for answers to hypothetical questions, in reference to a ban from 1994, due to a non existent and very unrealistic event. Um, one can take perfectly legal routes in present day, that would allow him/her to have all the AR15's and AK's they could afford, and nobody would ever know.

    Build from 80's, buy through private sales, keep your mouth shut and the pictures off the internet.

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    I get your point and I know its a hypothetical, but I was just thinking that would be a way to stay legit even if the most restrictive yet reasonably feasible guns laws were to be passed. Similar to buying a few 100% AR lowers and keeping them in a closet just in case. Ya know, just as a worst case scenario.
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    The assholes who are trying to confiscate guns and scrub the 2nd Amendment off the books are not going to give a single tug of a dead dog's cock what the gun started out as. If it doesn't have a serial number, they'll scream 'GHOST GUN!" on top of everything else as it's held up for pictures. There might not even be a grandfather clause like last time simply because all their intentions are completely naked. It's always been about incrementalism but they were always quiet about the real goal.. not so much anymore. The blanket ban in New Zealand was a hilarious failure. That's what you have to watch to see how they handle that to have an expectation of how it might go down here.

    I mean look at it this way, they're already going after the 1st with the whole RED flag laws.. "someone creeping you out or just don't like them for some insane reason? RF them and put their lives under the microscope consequence free! Be smug about it online afterwards!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10Gauge View Post
    The assholes who are trying to confiscate guns and scrub the 2nd Amendment off the books are not going to give a single tug of a dead dog's cock what the gun started out as. If it doesn't have a serial number, they'll scream 'GHOST GUN!" on top of everything else as it's held up for pictures.
    They'll have to find these "ghost guns" first. They can't go door to door over the entire country. Amongst other unforeseeable problems that may occur with that, they don't have the manpower to do it. They would be banking on compliance to rid our streets of these "scary" weapons.

    We are simply long passed the time when certain firearms can be successfully banned. They can be illegal for sure, but that doesn't mean they will cease to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    They'll have to find these "ghost guns" first. They can't go door to door over the entire country. Amongst other unforeseeable problems that may occur with that, they don't have the manpower to do it. They would be banking on compliance to rid our streets of these "scary" weapons.

    We are simply long passed the time when certain firearms can be successfully banned. They can be illegal for sure, but that doesn't mean they will cease to exist.
    I'm just saying there's ways of finding them. If any part or bit was bought online or even ammo.. there's a strong indication of gun ownership. I don't know anyone with just one gun. It would be like having a 3D printed gun. If it got banned then how it came to be doesn't matter if it's in your possession or on your property.

    Heh.. if anything if a draconian ban was passed, it would be interesting to see who complies and who secures their neighborhood. Be a Mr. Rogers with an AK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10Gauge View Post
    I'm just saying there's ways of finding them. If any part or bit was bought online or even ammo.. there's a strong indication of gun ownership. I don't know anyone with just one gun. It would be like having a 3D printed gun. If it got banned then how it came to be doesn't matter if it's in your possession or on your property.

    Heh.. if anything if a draconian ban was passed, it would be interesting to see who complies and who secures their neighborhood. Be a Mr. Rogers with an AK.
    Clearly, theres a way to find anything. They would just gather transaction records. I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people who buy 80% lowers do it online and with their CC, but it doesn't neccesarily have to be done that way.
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    I'm sure they won't be as nice this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Clearly, theres a way to find anything. They would just gather transaction records. I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people who buy 80% lowers do it online and with their CC, but it doesn't neccesarily have to be done that way.
    Yeah no kidding. Dumb fuckers think OPSEC is an icecream parlor.. same folks who buy airsoft glock giggle switches and wonder why the ATF shows up.
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    I never knew about the airsoft full auto sears from China until after the fact. I honestly thought it was joke at first when I read the thread.
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    nys banned all semi autos in 2014.estimates that over 1 million semiautos were in the state,no grandfather clause.you had a cutoff date to register your semi auto.only about 3000 were registered.the other 997,000 owners said FUCK YOU to the state as they should and any responsible man should.the piece of shit who wrote the law screamed quote "WHAT GOOD IS PASSING LAWS IF NOBODY WILL OBEY THEM"let them pass and ban all they want,they will have to come and take them like they tried once in 1776 and that didn't work out as planned.

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    Yeah.. like I said.. the NZ 'buyback' was a hilarious failure. NYS was too. Things come full circle eventually. Awhile back the Detroit Chief of Police was like "lol get yourself a gun plz" https://www.wnd.com/2014/01/detroit-...rm-yourselves/
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    The gov doesnt have the resources to find/trace every gun part in America. no.

    worst case they make them illegal and you have to turn them in, they become worthless. I doubt it will happen. who knows.
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    Five sheriffs in Maryland will not comply with a new long gun bill as it is written. Wicomico County Sheriff Mike Lewis said "the way the bill is written, it is impossible to comply. I can't send my deputies on a suicide mission". This why it is important to have a good elected sheriff. There were a few sheriffs that did not enforce Clinton's assault weapons ban.

    https://www.capitalgazette.com/polit...226-story.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E2hy4tp2S8
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    Quote Originally Posted by 43m1garand View Post
    Five sheriffs in Maryland will not comply with a new long gun bill as it is written. Wicomico County Sheriff Mike Lewis said "the way the bill is written, it is impossible to comply. I can't send my deputies on a suicide mission". This why it is important to have a good elected sheriff. There were a few sheriffs that did not enforce Clinton's assault weapons ban.

    https://www.capitalgazette.com/polit...226-story.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E2hy4tp2S8
    And the rest are eager and willing to strip Americans of their rights for a paycheck...

 

 
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