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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
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    The paper questions the natural evolution of this strain of the virus. It seems to suggest an "unnatural" origin, but I don't really know enough about it to comment or form an opinion one way or another. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if this was something that escaped the lab. It also wouldn't surprise me if it occurred naturally in a bats in a cave in the Hubei region.
    The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China "promotes human rights now," says Kang Zhongwen , who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmankins View Post
    It sounds like they suggest the origin is suspect based on the structure being similar to other viruses, is that how you read it?
    These researchers supposedly identified 4 unique inserts in the spike glycoprotein sequences of the 2019-nCoV that are not found in any other known coronavirus, such as SARS CoVs. For some reason, they don't think the coronavirus could have evolved to have these in such a short amount of time, comparing these to other known strains. They found some interesting matches in these 4 inserts with the human HIV-1, specifically the Gag protein that is involved in the host cell membrane binding.

    Who knows, though. It seems that there is great diversity in the S gene of studied coronaviruses so maybe it mututated and formed naturally to have these characteristics.
    The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China "promotes human rights now," says Kang Zhongwen , who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsMcETTIZS0

    20,588 confirmed cases, 426 deaths, 644 recovered.
    Early in the video there is some reporting of the crematoriums running 24/7.
    This has gone world wide, we aren't getting anything out of China now except blame for accusing the Chinese government of false reporting.

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    There are rumors floating around that the level 4 bio lab in Wuhan was tinkering around with this particular virus, and probably due to bad safety protocols, it got loose and is now bringing good news and cheer to everyone. If this is the case, and its my opinion it is (or something close to this), its not hard to understand why the senior leadership of China packed up and left for an undisclosed location, or an island. They know what this is, how fast it spreads, and what its going to do if it runs out of control.

    Again, I don't believe this to be a plague that wipes out 90% of humanity, but it will impact us severely economically. If China starts to collapse nationwide, its going to ripple through manufacturing and the stock market. I'll say it again; put away some extra food and meds and other needful things just in case. If this thing turns out not so bad, you have a full pantry, if things really tight, you avoid long lines and shortages at the store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMomma View Post
    Again, I don't believe this to be a plague that wipes out 90% of humanity, but it will impact us severely economically. If China starts to collapse nationwide, its going to ripple through manufacturing and the stock market. I'll say it again; put away some extra food and meds and other needful things just in case. If this thing turns out not so bad, you have a full pantry, if things really tight, you avoid long lines and shortages at the store.
    It might be too late to go full enchilada plate "Prep". This is going to be prohibitive both in availability and economically for most people.
    Topping off the pantry time is now, I would guess having anything less than three months worth of food on hand might get sketchy if this goes full blown.
    I would also guess food riots are right around the corner in China and that the hold this government has on the people will become more tenuous every day this virus burns in China. I would also guess the definition of a full pantry is much different in China than it is in the United states, making things very, very different for the Chinese people.
    People are people, your belly is going to radicalize you, looking at your kids get sick and there is no viable healthcare available for them is going to radicalize you. Not having any money to pay for the rising costs of basic life essential items is going to radicalize you.
    I would guess that everyday this sickness drags on and now the bird flu is occurring, pushes this further in to a danger zone, not only for the worlds economy, but for the Chinese Governments hold on their people.

    As far as "This is just another Flu Virus", maybe, just maybe it is and twenty years from now, that may be the way this plays out, but right now, that's just not the case.
    Things to think about, because this is new, we don't have a lot of built in immunity, both as individuals and ass a collective human community, so it's burning through Wuhan and now the numbers aren't looking too good for us. Look at the rate of death's versus recoveries, that's rather impressive.
    There are scientific experts running the numbers and they are claiming this is worse than SAR's and the spread is looking much worse than SAR's because of more international travel and the longer incubation rates.

    The best you can do is be highly cautious at this point.
    I'm not out and about in large groups.
    I'm not buying fast food or going to restaurants anymore and I will not go to a buffet for quite a while after this thing dies out.
    I'm washing my hands very often and when I'm not washing them, I'm using hand sanitizer.

    I actually received some cash in the form of a in house money order that I needed to cash, I got the cash and the clerk counting the money went in to a coughing hacking fit after I got my money. Did she wash her hand? Did she use the available hand sanitizer that was available on the counter? No, that gross little pig wiped her hands on her pants legs and served the next customer.
    People are contagious if it's not corona virus it's some other form of disease or virus they passing on to you.
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    It is recommended to have at least a three day supply of food anyway in case of natural disaster, eg: tornado or hurricane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I'm not buying fast food or going to restaurants anymore and I will not go to a buffet for quite a while after this thing dies out.
    Damn! Now you have me. I was planning on my favorite Chinese buffet end of this month after a meeting. But you're right, that's got to be HIGH on the shit scale for potential infection. Real, no English spoken, Chinese working there.

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    3 months minimum

    3 years would be better

    0 mass gatherings for the next 3 months or more
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    Chinese restaurant in a town not too far from where I live got busted for human trafficking. Might be a little unsanitary to eat there depending on what you eat.
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    I'm not about to lock myself in and become a hermit, even if I was retired. But I guess it's what you consider "mass". 4th of July fireworks in the park? I'll pass! Everyday things I'm not going to change at this point.

    Properly rationed I can feed a family for a few months. Problem becomes electricity. In a power outage fridges only keep cold so long. I do have food that doesn't require cold but not the same thing. Been thinking of trying to make pemican and stocking up on some more canned meats/fish
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    Eat the ice cream first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottyb View Post
    Eat the ice cream first.
    Gotta go buy some first! Now if winter was like it usually is I could stick it all on the deck but this winter hasn't been less than 40 yet. Yesterday and today were 60. The coldest day this week is Saturday with 39 everything else is in the high 40s low 50s. Normally it's in the teens to low 20s with an occasional heatwave around 30

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    To my knowledge, they have never gone this far in China. Sobering.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjzPtyAKG7w

    It's off of the chain in China.
    24K + infected another 23K + suspected, 492 deaths, nearly 900 recovered.
    China is throwing the kitchen sink at this virus and so far all they've managed to do is have increased numbers and discover that they've found bird flu in some of the more remote regions.
    It was easy to poo-poo this thing as just another week ago wasn't it? We are bringing people out of China and putting them in quarantine in California at a more remote Air Force base, in the mean time we find new cases here every day.
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