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    I see, well I thought it was public record these were Russian troops. Did the Russian government publicly deny they had crossed the border? Is someone actually trying to say this is just a unsanctioned, maverick group of ex-SpetsNAZ? If that truly was the goal then it's an epic fail. Maybe I'm wrong but they don't seem to be doing anything at all to camouflage the fact they are Russian military. They drove across the Russian border in current-issue Russian made military vehicles, are wearing Russian issue uniforms, are decked out with Russian equipment and carrying basically Russian-only small arms and other advanced ordnance. Some of them have been previously identified as Russian naval infantry. I doubt the local population, or anyone else on the ground there, has any doubt as to who they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantal View Post
    I see, well I thought it was public record these were Russian troops. Did the Russian government publicly deny they had crossed the border? Is someone actually trying to say this is just a unsanctioned, maverick group of ex-SpetsNAZ? If that truly was the goal then it's an epic fail. Maybe I'm wrong but they don't seem to be doing anything at all to camouflage the fact they are Russian military. They drove across the Russian border in current-issue Russian made military vehicles, are wearing Russian issue uniforms, are decked out with Russian equipment and carrying basically Russian-only small arms and other advanced ordnance. Some of them have been previously identified as Russian naval infantry. I doubt the local population, or anyone else on the ground there, has any doubt as to who they are.
    Yeah I don't know where that is coming from. I think the exact (claimed) number was 15,000 Russian troops went in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantal View Post
    I see, well I thought it was public record these were Russian troops. Did the Russian government publicly deny they had crossed the border? Is someone actually trying to say this is just a unsanctioned, maverick group of ex-SpetsNAZ? If that truly was the goal then it's an epic fail. Maybe I'm wrong but they don't seem to be doing anything at all to camouflage the fact they are Russian military. They drove across the Russian border in current-issue Russian made military vehicles, are wearing Russian issue uniforms, are decked out with Russian equipment and carrying basically Russian-only small arms and other advanced ordnance. Some of them have been previously identified as Russian naval infantry. I doubt the local population, or anyone else on the ground there, has any doubt as to who they are.
    No one has denied these are Russian troops. Least of all the Russians.

    Here's Putin telling our President to - er, that he will not be dissuaded:
    Obama tells Putin his actions are 'clear violation' of Ukraine's sovereignty | Fox News

    Now I do believe some of the "unknown gunmen" running about and causing mischief that will "warrant" Russian intervention are actually Russian Spetsnaz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ol'Sarge2K View Post
    The majority of the Crimea is Russian or Russian leaning. I've been to Sevastopol - it IS Russia for all practical purposes.

    Shit, anyone over 35 or so over there grew up when the Ukraine and Russia was the same country.

    The comparison to Mexican or Canadian helicopters flying here is not really valid.

    I'm on the same page there.


    Didn't they have to fly over Ukraine to get to Crimea from Russia? Or are they going around them? If they came from naval ships already in the Black Sea then I could see them slipping in.

    The way the protests are going I would assume seeing foreign helicopters ferrying in people and gear to potentially kill you and yours or at least suppress your voices would be met with force. Even if it was just by a few people.

    After all, all of Ukraine is not Crimea.

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    They can take off from Stalingrad and go straight into the Crimea without overflying the Ukraine. Sochi is just right across the water from Sevastopol.

    A five mile ferry ride across the Straight of Kerch, between the Crimea and Russia proper, and military vehicles are on the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot308 View Post

    I'm on the same page there.


    Didn't they have to fly over Ukraine to get to Crimea from Russia? Or are they going around them? If they came from naval ships already in the Black Sea then I could see them slipping in.

    The way the protests are going I would assume seeing foreign helicopters ferrying in people and gear to potentially kill you and yours or at least suppress your voices would be met with force. Even if it was just by a few people.

    After all, all of Ukraine is not Crimea.
    My understanding is that the Russian troops are primarily landing via ship, and being flown into the Russian bases already in the Ukraine. As you can see that can be done completely over sea.



    Even if they had to go overland, the majority of the Eastern Ukraine supports Russia. Donets'k in particular is another might as well be Russia city. There were sporadic protests in the Eastern Ukraine earlier but to quote my friend in Poltova - "They were bused in neo-nazi assholes who all had western accents."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ol'Sarge2K View Post
    Now I do believe some of the "unknown gunmen" running about and causing mischief that will "warrant" Russian intervention are actually Russian Spetsnaz.
    No doubt, Sarge, but I'd say probably active rather than ex-SpetsNAZ.
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    At this stage of the game, it would be suicidal for the new Ukrainian President to shoot down a Russian cargo plane over the Crimea making a "routine" flight into the Black Sea Fleet base at Sevastopol, carrying a full compliment of "peace-keeping" troops.
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    It's going to be interesting for sure.

    Also interesting to see is the Russians using PALS/Molle.

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    Interesting. Hopefully my cheap ammo continues to come in otherwise- I'll take back the Crimea myself.

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    I feel like maybe, just maybe the Soldier on the right is female. Maybe. No Homo.


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    Sarge, thanks! Guys, please keep'em coming. I don't have time to search the net for stuff like this, so your contributions are very much appreciated. The only problem is every time these Russian incursions make headlines I start getting "web gear fever" again, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantal View Post
    Sarge, thanks! Guys, please keep'em coming. I don't have time to search the net for stuff like this, so your contributions are very much appreciated. The only problem is every time these Russian incursions make headlines I start getting "web gear fever" again, haha.
    Ha! I've never had that fever, but I agree - I'm starting to feel that compulsion. Not that I want to play Russian Soldier, but damn that gear looks cool as a backdrop to the AK-74M.

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    Yeah, me too, i always tried to steer clear of that part of the hobby, I always asked myself why and where would i wear that stuff, or what would I use it for? Plus I was already spending too much money on rifles and gun parts, with nowhere to put all of it, so it was just way easier to frown on that sort of investment and limit my personal acquisitions of AK accessories to more utilitarian things like mag pouches, drop cases, slings and bayonets.

    Then, about fifteen years ago, a friend talked me into trading an optic for his entire Afghan airborne field gear/field uniform collection. I took it in as a favor, figuring I'd part it out and sell it off when the right buyers came along, but after seeing it (and yes, trying everything on), I was seriously hooked. Needless to say, I found room for it and now that kit makes up the most interesting and possibly authentic part of my collection. Since that time, I have not bene able to add much to this, but i did put together a nice date correct Gorka/BVD/6B4 set applicable to the late Afghan War/1st Chechen/Dagestan time period. Limited funds and space rule out much modern era stuff, at least not until I win the lottery.

    It is a very interesting and wildly popular collector area, probably more widespread than even AK collecting. I'm very envious of some of the cool uniform collections members here have posted up in the past.
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    I agree with you Tantal, I keep checking this thread to see more pics of their Kits and I have small collection I would like to build up too!
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