Is this gas tube original? SA 85M KBI
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    Is this gas tube original? SA 85M KBI

    20200212_211809.pngGoing to try and post some pics:

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    I should have come to yall first.

    But i bought this on gunbroker.

    I already know the handguards are not original. But in detail i noticed the gas tube finish looks different from the rest. Sorry I don't have better pics, I have not received it yet.

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    Also, the seller could not answer if the gun had a rear lower tang added in converting the buttstock from thumbhole to pistolgrip. Wouldn't that be missing, unless it was added by a gunsmith? Any info or input is appreciated. All numbers were matching on dust cover, receiver, and bolt stem. I just overlooked the gas tube. Grumble. My first Hungarian

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    No offense, but that is one ugly gun. Maybe you can trade it/sell it and get something you'd enjoy better.

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    Hungarian rifles do use a vented gas tube like that. Can't say for sure it is orginal.

    That lower handguard is trippy. Never saw one quite that long. Looks like they had to modify the hand guard retainer to install it.

    Hungarian double stack receiver - looks like a good candidate for a deban. The rivet pattern for the rear trunnion looks correct for a fixed stock. The rear trunnion most likely is a cast forked rear trunnion that resembles some Soviet rear trunnions.

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    WTB Late East German 7.62 top cover and gas tube numbered 687.

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    We'll see once it gets in. Thanks for the feedback. Was planning on changing the handguards, and the grip. Most people don't buy the KBI to preserve NIB - I want the quality of a matching original Hungarian with the freedom to modify as a shooter. If the gas tube is not original that is a slight disappointment but doesn't mean this can't be configured to fit the role. I did not notice the handguard retainer.

    I should have taken the seller's information, or lack thereof as a signal to pass. He was a top 100 seller, and AKs not his niche

    Also serial SM033## places this as a very early KBI post ban import from my research

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    Yeah, some kind of custom mod for that lower HG. There might be a slot in that barrel at the retainer location, unless the retainer was bubba'd, which would be a better situation. Other than that, it's a typical SA85M with a cheap polymer stock. A stamped receiver rifle like that will not have a lower tang. The buttstock is secured with just 2 screws from the top. As stated earlier, 'deban' parts are available. You could just paint the gas tube to match the rest of the rifle. Check the MP here. Arato was selling complete Hungarian stock sets recently.

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    The lower hand guard should end we’re the upper ends.
    Stamped / AKMs never have lower tangs of vented gas tubes.
    This example or whatever it is looks decently done but why?

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    Thank you all for the info! Once i get this in hand I'll decide how to act. Leaning toward a pair of original handguards, any suggestions for buttstocks I'm open.Will also post some better pictures once I get it

    If it looks like the handguard retainer was modified, I will update as well

 

 

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