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    Quote Originally Posted by AZAK View Post
    Can we please back up and introduce some useful and accurate numbers? A 1 MOA dot covers:

    1" @ 100yds
    2" @ 200yds
    3" @ 300yds
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    10" @ 1000yds
    And so on.

    If a small VW is 10 feet long, a 1 MOA dot would cover it at 12000 yards, over 7miles.

    Get the idea? Feel free to do the math, just the simplest of geometry.
    For an AK in 7.62x39, there may not be much point in using a red dot for any ranged shooting because the bullet drop will be outside of the dot pretty quickly.

    Range (yards) Drop (inches) Velocity Energy Time (seconds)
    0 -1.4917 2349 1507 0.00
    100 0.0106 2008 1101 0.14
    200 -7.1998 1699 788 0.30
    300 -26.5812 1430 558 0.49
    400 -63.1059 1214 402 0.72
    500 -123.2630 1066 310 0.99

    They may be better suited for 5.45x39 and 5.56x45, because of the flatter trajectory of those cartridges. An illuminated low-power scope with a BDC reticle seems like a better choice if you want to shoot beyond 200m.

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    From what I know, the advantage of the red dot is in speed of engagement of close-in targets. With practice, you can get as good with iron sights, but it takes more practice and finesse to get the same chance of hitting a target inside 150-ish yards.

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    Personally I like a low fix power scope. Just as fast as a red dot but can be used for accuracy at distances with out covering up my target.

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    In terms of simple accuracy (setting speed of target acquisition aside) red dots are most useful (over iron sights) to me when the target is a darker color that makes it hard to define the front sight post. Dot provides a much higher level of confidence. With a nice contrast between sights and target, and an unhurried rate of fire, I don't think my groups are any tighter with the red dot over factory sights.
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    Being in my early 50's now, I have come to appreciate the red dot quite a bit. I'm my late teens, 20's and 30's in the Marine Corps, irons were the standard and we made fun others who wanted optics on their M-16s and other rifles. Now my older eyes don't pick up my irons like they used to, especially at ranges past 200-300 yards. Love the Aimpoints, and huge fan of Vortex, both red dots and regular optics. Aimpoint PRO on my duty rifle. I do agree though, magnified scopes for longer ranges, red dots closer in.
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    It seems to me that the 'myth' of the red dot (or scope) is that they somehow cancel out poor shooting skills.
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    I firmly believe if you have crappy shooting skills, red dots will bring that to light quickly and sometimes make matters worse.

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    Well update here, from last post, now 63 years young, Eyeballs are not what they used to be here; 2MOA red dot sighted in, and I am now getting 100% hits on a 12 inch steel target at 220 yards, but I think I could do a little better, on a lucky day.
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