Love my N-PAP, but my O-PAP is a Jam-O-Matic...
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    Love my N-PAP, but my O-PAP is a Jam-O-Matic...

    I have gotten the bug for some more AKs lately.
    I first got foreign weapons fam training on them in the military in "86,
    and got my first personal one,
    in the early 90s Interstate Arms imported thumbhole MAK-90 Sporter. (Stamped, straight cut)

    I added a SAR-2 in 5.45, and a couple of other 7.62x39 examples but had not bought a new one in close to ten years.

    While not 80s and early 90s prices, a synthetic stocked NPAP for under 500$ out the door at my LGS caught my eye and followed me home. It has eaten Norinco gray box, S&B green box, WPA, black/red Wolf, and Tula through spine Euorpean mags, Tapco mags, and Chinese no-spine mags like a champ without a single hiccup.

    I liked it so much I ordered the underfolder version from Classic to go with it.

    Well, I was checking my other little LGS just because I like to stop in. There was on O-PAP sitting there looking all lonely in a gun shop with like one other AK and a wall of ARs.

    The box says made in 11/13, and the SN is just a hair over 8000. I have nothing against regular stamped AKs, am not really a seeker of milled receiver AKs, but for whatever reason I am a sucker for extra thick stamped receiver AKs.

    I should have passed, but I was dumb enough to pick it up and think I would be able to pass after that. The combination of the receiver and the Yugo wood on steroid stocks, and it just felt right. It had that old heft and feel of an early, old school battle rifle like a Garand or FN49. I love ARs and other AKs, but this one really called to me. Plus, everyone seems to be looking for an O-PAP now.

    At the range, I could see the first round hit about 8 inches low and 6 inches left at 25m. That is as far off out of the box an AK I have ever handled. And the bolt either did not come all the way back, or it got stuck on its way forward. As far as the range of bolt carrier hitting the hammer goes, most of my AKs did far less, but I have felt plenty of others that did it this much.

    I went through several magazines known to function well, and the same stash and variety of ammo that the N-PAP had no issues with.

    I did get 8 rounds in a row off once. On a handful of times, I got a few shots in the row off, but most of the time by far it was a single shot. Brass was ejected just a foot or so away when it did fire. I had stove pipes left and right. In fact, I had more malfunctions with this AK trying to get through the 120 rounds I took with me than in ALL AKs I have ever owned or shot in my life put together.

    Anyways, I have never had an AK that needed to be broken in or had issues. Should I just send it to Century now, or is there a logical proven way to sort it out on my own?

    Thank you.

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    O-PAP/N-PAP: how are they different?

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    My N-PAP has a stamped receiver.
    My O-PAP has the extra thick stamped RPK receiver.


    Look under the charging handle on the side of the receiver of the OPAP (top)
    and the same place on the NPAP (just below it)

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    look at the alignment of the lower rails and the bolt, make sure its not dragging or getting caught.
    "Yes, you really can build a gun with bolt cutters......"

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    did you clean the rifle first? you need to clean the gas port

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquaman View Post
    did you clean the rifle first? you need to clean the gas port
    Yes,
    although I only did it because it looked full of metal shavings when I field stripped it to lube it before going to the range.

    Any other AK I have had I have only lubed it out of the box.

    Gas port got the usual shot of brakecleen I do for an AK cleaning.

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    did you check the gas piston for binding? If the gas block/rear sight block is canted that could cause issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquaman View Post
    did you check the gas piston for binding? If the gas block/rear sight block is canted that could cause issues
    I checked everything and could not find what the hang up is.

    Then,
    the safety was stuck on fire,
    pulled up and when it unstuck it went past safe and came out.

    Leading to the trigger pin coming out also.

    Nothing like being at the range without all your home tools and it's 32 degrees and you need to mess with an AK FCG.

    I called Century this morning.
    They are supposed to send me a shipping label.

    Truly, if this had been my first AK,
    I would never buy another.

    If this had been my first Century,
    I would never buy another.


    But, luck of the draw.
    I got one of the few AK lemons.

    The fixed synthetic stock NPAP I got is running like a sewing machine.
    I am going to see if the underfolder NPAP does as well.
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    I have seen an axis pin retainer either missing or not engaged cause various malfunctions...my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAAK's View Post
    I have seen an axis pin retainer either missing or not engaged cause various malfunctions...my .02
    It was in place previously.

    I am not sure what caused the stick with the safety lever.

    But, obviously, that coming out let the retaining spring pressure off the trigger pin so that could pop out.

    There is just something that went wrong with this gun's build and I am going to let the importer/assembler sort it out.

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    Sending that mess back for warranty repairs is your best bet. Keep us posted, if you can.
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    Lightbulb Here's what worked for me

    Perhaps try a "Wolff Extra Power Recoil Spring".
    I was having failures to fire, eject, light primer strikes etc on my new wasr10/63.
    I read online that a common problem is weak recoil springs and that the wolf extra power spring
    has helped several people. I ordered mine and now my wasr10/63 with slide-fire rapidly empties
    my mags!

 

 

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