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    Just getting started in the ak builder guild. What do you recommend?

    So as the title says I'm getting started. I plan to build at least 6 AKs this year of not more. Seems like anything after two build the tools will be free and then start saving me money. At least that's what I keep telling my self. I have a good shop drill press and a 20 ton press already. I have tons of tools but mechanic stuff mainly not much use fo AKs. I have a large, medium and small set of vises. I haven't mounted them yet. I went onto AK Builders, Toth Tools and Forbus Engineering web sites. Ive picked a bunch of stuff out and it comes to roughly $1,100. I have old school calipers but nothing Metric which seems like I should get. What do you recommend tool wise. Thanks for any help.

    I have a separate room/shop area I plan on putting my AK Union shop in. Its 8x21. Should work just fine. Any suggestions, tips or advice will be appreciated.

    I will pretty much just be building on 100% Receivers. They are also just for my personal use. My wife will build her own on the receivers she buys. It seems to me that is the best route as they are hardened and blued ect ect.. Makes life much easier.
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    $1100 on tools sounds pretty high.
    If you have some shop skills and imagination you can make or fab some of the tools.
    Press plates, bolt cutter rivet crusher, rivet bucking plates etc.
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    If you already have the drill press and 20-ton press, I simply don't see how you can spend $1100 on all the other tools, unless you buy two of each or something.
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    The Market Place here and on files would be a good place to start looking for tools.

    Here's an example:

    https://www.theakforum.net/forums/35...hing-jaws.html


    Not available but for your reference:

    https://www.theakforum.net/forums/35...ing-tools.html
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    All of the drill bit were priced in tens. Not singles bit price. I also went high end on the bits as you get what you pay for. It adds up quick. I would have bought those tools. Oh well will keep an eye out. Thanks.

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    Not much help on the build tools but for drill bits and calipers MAC tools had my digital calipers for 4+ years now they do standard and metric as well as fractions. And all size MAC bits are warranty able unlike snap on and cost less haha. And I swear by them because I'm am equipment mechanic use them all the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by HavasuAK View Post
    Not much help on the build tools but for drill bits and calipers MAC tools had my digital calipers for 4+ years now they do standard and metric as well as fractions. And all size MAC bits are warranty able unlike snap on and cost less haha. And I swear by them because I'm am equipment mechanic use them all the time
    Thank you! The Mac truck drives by my wife office often. Theres a few car shops close by. I will swing in and see if he has some calipers. Thank you.

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    Maybe we can centralize here all the needed tools list for future reference.

    Of course prices will change in the future, but at least the list will give others some kind of guidance.

    Feel free to add as needed.




    Bolt cutters 24" Harbor Freight use 20% coupon... $16
    Rivet jaws to go with the bolt cutters ... $70
    Toth Tool install/remove barrel .... $95
    Toth Tool barrel population .... $45
    Trigger Guard Rivet Tool .... $65
    Rear Trunnion/Center support rivet tool... $155
    Dimple tool ... $30
    Front trunnion hole drilling fixture... $75
    Reamer set.. $30
    (Bit set if the ones included are not satisfactory).. $15-$20?
    Go/No-Go gauge set.. $58
    Gas block - Front sight alignment jig... $60

    Additional tools
    12-20 ton press used - new. Use HF coupons ... $100 - 190 (add local sales tax)
    Self centering drill jig HF w/coupon ... $10 (add local sales tax)
    Drill press vise HF w/coupon ..... $18

    Add a little more for shipping and sales tax depending where you are and round it off to $1000 in total.
    If buying second hand tools of course it be less costly.
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    If you already have the drill press/vises/press that’s half the battle. You can eliminate some of the toth tools that can be used with your press. A drill press isn’t really needed but it’s nice to have. I find myself working more with hand drills as they can be adjusted easily for drilling needs.
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    I never had a tool budget but try to purchase quality tools whenever possible .
    My few considerations are,
    1. Will it make my job easier?
    2. Will the results improve by using it?
    3.How often will I use it?
    4. If I buy it will I then have more tools than you? LOL


    Will you be building on any 80% receivers, consider a good fcg jig in the future.


    I purchased then installed a compressor in a remote location then piped air to
    my build room! Use it more than I imagined.


    One last thing and to me the most important , anything to help you measure more precisely will absolutely improve your building!


    Just a few of my thoughts !
    Enjoy
    "America does not need to see the tax return of a billionaire who became a public servant.
    America needs to see the tax returns of public servants who became millionaires while being public servants"

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPI View Post
    BC
    I never had a tool budget but try to purchase quality tools whenever possible .
    My few considerations are,
    1. Will it make my job easier?
    2. Will the results improve by using it?
    3.How often will I use it?
    4. If I buy it will I then have more tools than you? LOL


    Will you be building on any 80% receivers, consider a good fcg jig in the future.


    I purchased then installed a compressor in a remote location then piped air to
    my build room! Use it more than I imagined.


    One last thing and to me the most important , anything to help you measure more precisely will absolutely improve your building!


    Just a few of my thoughts !
    Enjoy
    I will be using 100% receivers. My compressor is an industrial unit but I have no 220 for it until I get an Electrician out here to run the power.

 

 

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