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    what kind of barrels are those your using in this pic? new kvar bulgy 104ur barrels ?

    I will try to pull the parts out of storage and take pics of the fcg soon thanks btw!
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    Love my 1993 kit, specially that I saw the original functioning version before being taken apart and shipped piece by piece...





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    how come they have to cut the piston head ,bolt, barrel.? I mean I know they been cutting the barrel and receivers .. but why now the piston head and bolt also? is this something new?

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    The kits are from a DEACT Rifle.
    Raised in New Mexico, where the Hell else do you sneak out in the backyard and shoot off an Atom Bomb or three, instead of a firecracker ...

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    I just re-read every post in this thread. We really need to update it. Mike spent a ton of time on this with countless contributions from our members.

    Mike do you still have all the photos? We should move those over to another host. I’d be happy to do anything to help.



    Doug said there were multiple lines running and I really want to go down that rabbit hole. There are such huge variations on serial numbers from each year and they are all clumped together in relatively tight groups it would suggest multiple lines (at least 2). At first I thought it was just the rifles which showed up in deact form or kits but the more I look at photos from the around the world it seems to still follow the pattern.

    The 86 and 88 transitional years will prove this if we can find early or late changes that don’t correspond to a liner serial number sequence. It would be ideal to find the approximate changeover on each line if they do indeed exist.

    It could also be possible huge consecutive serial number batches were issued to foreign governments to fulfill contracts. Rob Stott could be a huge help here with all of the documenting he has done around the globe. These batches may simply have not resurfaced but I kind of doubt it.

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    I have the 85 kit if you need newer pictures. Glad to see this thread again. Unfortunate about the photobucket pics.
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    That would be great! I need more ‘85 pics for some research I’m doing.

    Mike did a great job showing the differences in components and whoever is willing to post photos of their rifles or kits could add to the library and if we all used a similar photo strategy we could verify differences and possibly transitional variances.

    There will be some who don’t want serno’s posted and I totally understand that but if we leave the first 2 digits visible we can get an indication of change over points.

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    I'm beyond pissed at photobucket to say least, haha

    I'm working on a completely new guide that is going to be a public/free Google Document. This way, no limit on pictures, no worry about formatting for a thread, no resolution limits, and easily accessible to all.

    The part variation needs a major overall obviously. Since this was originally done we've had a flood of examples come in that make it possible to drastically upgrade this guide.

    Hopefully I'll have it up for you guys soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell View Post
    That would be great! I need more ‘85 pics for some research I’m doing.
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    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote"

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    А подскажи пожалуйста что обозначают цыфра на рукоятки 3/1или 5/2 размер?

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    More booster data points. Russian book on AKs says:

    1978-1981 = Izzy first type. Has a larger bevel at the base than later variants and is straight-wall for the rest of the body.

    1981-1986 (Izzy) / 1982-1986 (Tula) what is called type A bevel in the guide.

    1987-1993 = what the guide calls Type B non-bevel. Not sure if these were made at both factories or just Tula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantal View Post
    They didn't all start out having that slot, but later on I think it was integrated into most later-dated AK74 pouches. It used to be damn hard to find one with a slot, at least until all these mint new mid-late 80's pouches flooded in relatively recently. IMO, they also really never made a three-cell mag pouch intended just for a 5,45 rifle, regardless of what you might have "read on the internet". The only plastic oil bottles i trust as being Tula are the ones with the big ridge or lip around the top, but they might have made others during that long time frame for these rifles. I'd love to know for sure, and look forward to seeing images posted of what people might have collected in this area.
    Actually the Soviets never made a 4 cell AK pouch, in any caliber. RPK, sure, but AK? They are all 3s except the first couple of generations of 7.62 AK pouch. Unless, of course, we're counting the loaded clip pocket as a 'cell' on 545 pouches. That said, Russian troops typically use these pouches as 4 cell--some even cutting off the guide/clip retainer strap to facilitate that. Doesn't change the fact that it's a 3 cell.

    Also, the oil bottles with the ridge are armory (aka "repair arsenals") bottles--Tula and Molot simply had mold numbers, no logos. On the armory bottle the bisected square logo on the bottom is a dead giveaway, and is seen on various other Soviet replacement AK parts.

 

 
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