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    #New Test# Bulgarian AK74 more reliable than SAR *VID UP*

    Please keep this discussion civil so it doesn't get locked. We are all adults!

    The new test was just completed a few minutes ago.

    Some of you said that the Romanian SAR3 was not a reliable gun, and to an extent you were right. In the last thread someone commented that Weiger mags should have been used, and if you look at the video again, they were. However, I won't link to that video since the last time it got locked.

    I don't have time to add text and upload the video until later this evening after my day is finished, but it should be up by 6PM AZ MTN time.

    Rifle used in second test was a Bulgarian Kit gun built on an Armory USA receiver chambered in 5.45.

    Magazines were a mix of Bakelite and Polymer.

    Thanks to the anonymous AR15.com member who donated the use of his rifle, and thanks to Garry_Owen for donating the ammunition used in the test.

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    Video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRRUuXyspT0

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    Sounds good, we'll see how it goes.
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    video is posted

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    hurm
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    Beryl mags, Bulgarian 556 mags, Any 556 AK mags
    Skorpion Mags,
    Romanian bakelite lower handguard,
    Polskie dziewczyny maja najwiecej witaminy!

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    If you pour rocks directly into the action you'll get the same result every time.

    Here's a test where dirt was poured through the top.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QbZWg4l ... re=related
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    Use a Bulgarian, Romanian or Russian AK74 for your tests. You say 'authentic' - then do it authentic. Use an import receiver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOHNO
    If you pour rocks directly into the action you'll get the same result every time.

    Here's a test where dirt was poured through the top.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QbZWg4l ... re=related
    I did see that test, and I know that the person who posted it is an active member on this forum, whom I respect. However, I saw most of the dirt not going into the gun in his video (hits his shoe, the ground, etc.), and throwing dirt in from the top is not realistic.

    I think my test is fairly realistic in how dirt can get into an AK type rifle, although the amount going in is pretty substantial.

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    Did you engage the safety on the AR before you threw dirt on it?
    If so, shouldn't the same be done for the AK? I think the results would be far different.

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    I see a lock in this thread's future.

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    I agree.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zhurdan
    Did you engage the safety on the AR before you threw dirt on it?
    If so, shouldn't the same be done for the AK? I think the results would be far different.
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    Polish NSP-3 Scope S/N R-59170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhurdan
    Did you engage the safety on the AR before you threw dirt on it?
    If so, shouldn't the same be done for the AK? I think the results would be far different.
    No, both rifles were in a ready to fire condition.

    I am working on a solution for the AK. Whether or not it will be feasible remains to be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miglan20
    I see a lock in this thread's future.
    I hope not. The one in ARFCOM's AK forum lasted 9 pages for the previous video. You guys are at least as respectful as that crowd aren't you?

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    Sir, I would love to see you try the following test and post the results, this is the only test that I think will be fair.

    Remove the top cover of the AK and pour dirt in it, like Tim did. Then fire it.

    The remove the take down pins on the AR and pour dirt in it, just like you did in the AK, then fire it, IF you got balls.

    This will be the real deal test, as pouring dirt on a closed AR does nothing as the AR is built very differently than the AK. Because of the way the AK is built, a lot more dirt will get in the action, especially if you have the safety down like you did. To be fair, open up both guns and pour exact amount of dirt in the actions.



    Quote Originally Posted by azoutdoorsman

    I hope not. The one in ARFCOM's AK forum lasted 9 pages for the previous video. You guys are at least as respectful as that crowd aren't you?
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    The "Solution" would be to engage the safety on the AK

    The AK safety is also a dust cover.

    I personally can't think of a real life situation where that ammount of heavy debris could be dumped directly on the weak side of the weapon. Fine windblown sand and dust, ........I could see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azoutdoorsman
    Quote Originally Posted by Miglan20
    I see a lock in this thread's future.
    I hope not. The one in ARFCOM's AK forum lasted 9 pages for the previous video. You guys are at least as respectful as that crowd aren't you?
    We'll see how it goes, we'll keep it running as long as its productive and civil. When it starts to de-grade or starts getting off topic, you Guys will get a couple warnings and we'll go from there.
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