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View Poll Results: Would you buy a US made bakelite magazine for an MSRP around $40?

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  • I'd buy many!

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    I think there is a market for these mags. Just like there was a market for the US Bakelite furniture that came out of Atlantic firearm years ago...even though it was horrible. I can see the mags having a 922 compliant draw to them. Also if done in other colors would be a big advantage. Nobody wants to buy US mags that look exactly like russian bakes for the same price. Poly waffles would be good too.

    Keep in mind that euro steel mags are still super cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnut308 View Post
    Then you would be contradicting yourself. "using the same material, dimensions, and processes as the original bakelite mags"
    The pictured material is what the originals were made from. "Bakelite" is a misnomer.

    Quote Originally Posted by 22many View Post
    I think there is a market for these mags. Just like there was a market for the US Bakelite furniture that came out of Atlantic firearm years ago...even though it was horrible. I can see the mags having a 922 compliant draw to them. Also if done in other colors would be a big advantage. Nobody wants to buy US mags that look exactly like russian bakes for the same price. Poly waffles would be good too.

    Keep in mind that euro steel mags are still super cheap.
    I almost put "No, steel milsurp for lyfe!" as one of the poll options; this is a very valid point.

    Quote Originally Posted by AZAK View Post
    In that case the toxic aspects are moot, but I remain skeptical about making a business case for this.
    You are correct. If this was an obvious easy business choice, either: 1. Someone would have done it already 2. I wouldn't need to be posting here for feedback, I'd just launch it and rake in the cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZAK View Post
    Love to see people doing interesting things, but this might not be a great idea. Assuming itís the original formula (made from formaldehyde and phenol), Bakelite is extremely toxic. Look it up, there are very good reasons itís not manufactured anymore.

    https://www.sunnyray.org/Toxic-plastics-bakelite.htm

    But aside from the health issues, this isnít going to be a valid business proposition, and I would reinforce the points some others have made. You learn from planning, but that does not mean the plan should come to fruition. Seek another path for your ambitions.
    my thoughts exactly...

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    I would like to see some 20 rounders if this does take off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMFDM View Post
    I would like to see some 20 rounders if this does take off.
    I've heard this quite a bit, so it's definitely being considered. Same goes for new "bakelite" furniture.
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    Bakelite furniture would be great if it resembles factory shape and contours.
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    How about us 5.45 guys?

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    You are absolutely correct. These magazines are not and never were Bakelite to the best of my knowledge. The Russians refer to the material as a polymer (AGS9 or some such name) but not Bakelite. Don't remember exactly what the composition is, but it is not Bakelite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chosen_1 View Post
    The pictured material is what the originals were made from. "Bakelite" is a misnomer.



    I almost put "No, steel milsurp for lyfe!" as one of the poll options; this is a very valid point.



    You are correct. If this was an obvious easy business choice, either: 1. Someone would have done it already 2. I wouldn't need to be posting here for feedback, I'd just launch it and rake in the cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badinfluence74 View Post
    How about us 5.45 guys?
    Fuk it. I want a 5.56 Bakelite AR mag!
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    I'd be interested in one or two, especially if there are some interesting colors.
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    Bakelite waffle. Steel feed lips, steel reinforced catch. Also steel floorplate.

    Now if only we can make 74 brakes for ar again.
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    I would if you had like an OD green color.

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    If your product is for gun collectors, I would expect they would want originals.

    It looks like for $30 more than your expected price of $40 you can buy a real one:

    https://dkfirearms.com/product/surpl...ound-magazine/

    Also, I think you will find, like most Americans trying to make reproduction AK magazines that it is difficult to make mags as tough and reliable as the milsurp ones (with all the metal inserts and so on, that most manufacturer's can't or won't replicate decently).

    I'm not sure how big your market would be for a reproduction when the real item is still readily obtainable for collectors.

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    I'm not into Bakelite because Bakelite. Real, imported military magazines are still available. A knock off/new American made Bakelite mags would have no more interest for me than an orange tapco mag.
    Same way an American made AK interests me not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 22many View Post
    Fuk it. I want a 5.56 Bakelite AR mag!

    AR waffles
    needs moar AK

    or beer


 

 
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