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    German Police Dress Bayonet

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    Nice rural police bayonet! The property stamping L.Ka. 265 indicates it was an original issue M1929 Prussian police bayonet (during Weimer time) to the Landjagerei of the Adminstrative District of Kassel, inventory number 265. The "L" stands for Landjagerei (rural constabulary), the "Ka" was the city code for Kassel and the "265" was an inventory number, bayonet #265. Some of these bayonets were privately purchased, meaning that the officer bought the bayonet himself for his own use rather than having it issued to him by the police department. After nationalization of the police in 1936, the bayonet was reworked and reissued.

    Does the scabbard have matching property numbers and any maker markings on the frog? Also, is there a Starburst */K acceptance marking on the spine? There was other starburst/letter acceptance markings but */K is likely what yours would have, if any. In the 1934/35 timeframe they ceased using the */K acceptance marking. Those acceptance marks were used by the Prussian police acceptance offices from 1929 through about 1935/36 but presumably ceased after Himmler nationalized the police in June 1936. Here is a pic of the */K acceptance mark for reference.


    Here is some condensed background info in case you didn’t know the history of these:
    These Prussian bayonets were originally manufactured in the Weimar zeit in 1929 and the majority had a 17" blade, a clamshell device on the obverse and the obverse stag grip plate was affixed with a Weimar six-sided grip insignia. Many Police units wore very long bayonets equipped with a clamshell device. The hilt was cast in nickel, having a pommel shape in the form of an eagle head and a quillon decorated with oak leafing. The frog was either black or brown leather. Some of the early M1929s had a polished (Glatt) gold Tombak finish. First pic is beautiful E&F Horster example in its original form and the second pic is a close up of a Clemen & Yung example in its original form. Neither of these examples are mine.




    After Hitler came to power, the many German Police organizations still operating through their respective states and provinces were centralized. On June 17 1936, Reichsführer-SS, (National Leader of the SS), Heinrich Himmler was appointed to the newly created position of Chef der Deutschen Polizei im Reichsministerium des Innern, (Chief of the German Police in the National Ministry of the Interior), effectively giving him full control of all police agencies within Germany. As a result of this appointment and the restructuring of all the separate German state police into a single, national police force. New regulations were instituted in July 1936 to bring about uniformity in dress for all police throughout the country. One of the new uniform regulations was the introduction of a standardized bayonet, based on the earlier Prussian Landespolizei, (State Police), S.84/98 and the S.98/05 bayonets. The bayonets came in an un-slotted dress model, the PS.n and the PS.a, and a ‘T’ slotted service model, which enabled it to be attached to a rifle. Many of the earlier Prussian Landespolizei bayonets with the clamshell were re-worked and reissued for usage. Regulations of 1936 also decreed that the addition of the new, Third Reich 2nd pattern police emblem was to be affixed to the grip of the bayonets. Additional regulations dictated that the bayonets were to worn on the left side of the waist belt suspended by a bayonet frog. An additional special bayonet (PS.S.), a sabre for mounted personnel and a sword for NCO’s and Officers were also authorized for wear. The Police were divided into eight assorted branches of service consisting of:

    Schutzpolizei des Reiches - National Protection Police
    Gendarmerie - Rural Police
    Wasserschutzpolizei - Water Police
    Feuerschutzpolizei - Fire Protection Police
    Polizei Medizinal Beamte - Police Medical Officials
    Polizei Verwaltungs Beamte - Police Administration Officials
    Polizei Veterinar Beamte - Police Veterinarian Officials
    Schutzpolizei des Gemeinden - Municipal Protection Police

    During the Third Reich era, Gendarmerie and Polizeibeamten personnel utilized brown leather accoutrements while the Ordnungspolizei, the Schutzpolizei and Gemeindepolizei utilized blackened leather accoutrements. These leather accoutrement colors were reflected in the colors of the bayonet scabbards and suspension frogs as well as other leather accoutrements.

    The previous sidearm, a very long bayonet with clamshell addition, was altered to suit the newly formed Police. The new weapon was reworked and reissued having the following characteristics: the blade length was ground down to 13" (cut bayonets were called "verkürzt" or "shortened"), on such pieces one can observe the blood grooves which will often run down toward the tip of the blade; the grips were shortened, which explains the odd grip holes that are frequently but not always seen on these "cut down" bayonets, sometimes filled with wax, sometimes not; the Prussian six-sided grip emblem was replaced with an aluminum 3R Adler with oakleaf wreath and swastika; and the clamshell with Preßen Adler was also removed but in some cases it was merely ground off, leaving a metal "cuff" underneath the crossguard. Since adequate numbers of reworked bayonets were available, few newly produced weapons were required. Usually matching numbers will appear on the reverse quillon and upper scabbard fitting reverse. These bayonets can be found slotted for rifle mount or plain.
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    The scabbard matches the blade, and there is a mark on the spine as well. I will post a pic of this today or tomorrow when I get some time. Looks the the only thing this one is missing is the knot. Great write up!
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    The knot is not so much as missing but rather adhering to the new regulators that were imposed/implemented after centralization. Yours is correct for the bayonets that were reworked and reissued, so not having the knot is common for your bayonet. Most of these will not have the knot.
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    Cool, thanks! A few more pics to follow, but I need good lighting, so it may be a day or 2.
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