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    Want to SBR My first PPS-43

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    I am new to the forum just purchased my forst PPS-43 9mm and want to SBR it, got it from classic and it looks like just one small tac weld and pin peened over. Question one can i "E" file my form one i heard there was something like that possible ? Two ...who can make my folding stock function again or can i do it (any good smith you know of ...maybe myself. I cannot find any video's of someone making the folder function again like intended after getting the SBR stamp..... thanks in advance.


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    Anyone?

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    I would shoot it first. ALLOT.

    My 9mm was a POS. Even dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stottman View Post
    I would shoot it first. ALLOT.

    My 9mm was a POS. Even dangerous.
    Very good advice before submitting an app for a stamp.
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    I am a positive person...


    I have shot it "ALLOT" 850 rounds so far no problems.... so still my question is still can i E file and any smith that can make the folder work.

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    I SBR'd mine. It is the 9mm version. Runs like a top. The only problem was the broken hammer after about 3000 rounds, but was sent 2 free ones from one of IO's subcontractors. The folder is easy. You need to grind the weld at the end of the plunger. Drill out the plunger hole. Reinstall and weld in back together to the release bar. Takes about 10 min total.

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    Grungewehr.... thank you , any video's on this? There is one tac weld on the left side i think i can dremel that out. So the weld where it is peened down needs to be ground flat again correct? Can you explain why i need to drill out the plunger hole, and i do not have welding equipment. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stottman View Post
    I would shoot it first. ALLOT.

    My 9mm was a POS. Even dangerous.
    Can you eloberate. I would like to buy one and do the same thing. Thanks.

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    Just a heads up...you'll need to get the form 1 stamp in hand before you start any of the work. Btw, welcome aboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maus45 View Post
    Can you eloberate. I would like to buy one and do the same thing. Thanks.
    Well, given the common problems with PPS weapons, namely poor fitting magazines, and the fact that it is an open bolt with a fixed firing pin, that is a recipe for potential out of battery detonations if the round gets jammed before its in the chamber but after the bolt face has nestled the back the round. And since the thing is made out of relatively thin stamped metal, an out of battery detonation would make a lot of nasty shrapnel.

    You really have to get magazines that fit well with your specific firearm for this, and just general use reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobtheButcher View Post
    Well, given the common problems with PPS weapons, namely poor fitting magazines, and the fact that it is an open bolt with a fixed firing pin, that is a recipe for potential out of battery detonations if the round gets jammed before its in the chamber but after the bolt face has nestled the back the round. And since the thing is made out of relatively thin stamped metal, an out of battery detonation would make a lot of nasty shrapnel.

    You really have to get magazines that fit well with your specific firearm for this, and just general use reasons.
    The PPS 43 that is being asked about in this thread (pistol to be SBR'd) is a semi auto gun. It does not have a fixed firing pin and it fires from a closed bolt. The bolts on these are heavily modified from the original, to include a two piece, spring loaded firing pin.

    The fixed firing pin, open bolt operated weapon would be a fully automatic PPS43.

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    Mine wouldn't make it through a magazine without jamming. And by jamming, it was "short stroking".

    I tried 9mm "NATO" Winchester White box, to see if that helped. That actually caused OOB detonations. The first one, I didn't realize what it was. The second, I actually saw.
    The gun wasn't damaged, the round itself still went downrange, but the casing fragmented.

    Luckily, I was shooting it as a pistol right handed. If I fired it from the shoulder, left handed, the shrapnel would have ended up in my face.

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    GMAN ...understood i have 4 SBR's, i am using the 7.6 mags in my 9mm and also the 9mm mags as intended, anyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARKO65 View Post
    GMAN ...understood i have 4 SBR's, i am using the 7.6 mags in my 9mm and also the 9mm mags as intended, anyone else?
    Yes, I'm running 3 9mm mags and 2 of the 7.62 with spacer. One of the mags ( don't remember which one) has given me some feeding issues, mainly trying to feed 2 rounds. I have about one light primer strike out of 10 rounds with Remington and wolf 9mm. Those are the only issues I've had in 4 years.

    It definitely depends on the rifle, from what I've read. Some run without
    issue and others never function well. I got lucky with mine I guess.

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    Alamocity... what do you mean by spacer on the 7.6 mags.... thanks.


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