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    I like mine, no plans to sell. Very similar to the PSL AZAK has pictured.

    The PSL spring loaded butt stock reduces felt recoil. Pleasant to shoot imo.
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    Is 1500 a fair price for a PLS? Only you can answer that for yourself, but I'd suggest you look at other viable arms in similar price ranges 1st.
    Saiga and Vepr come in both 762x54r and 308
    FAL and PTR both in 308 for about 1000 bucks with plenty of spare parts and mags available.
    Polytech M14 maybe figure 1000 to 1200, heck of a lot better than a Springfield M1A which runs at least 2500 and up
    Then you have the Century C308 which is a Cetme clone built on a PTR receiver for about 700.

    20 round mags are standard unlike the PSL, Vepr and Saiga which range from 5 to 10 round mags which are hard to find.

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    From dragunov.net

    Dragunov dot net - Finnish Sniper Report


    "On the ROMAK-3:
    I also own privately a Romanian military PSL made in 1994 and I wanted to bring out some opinions of my own into that seemingly never ending debate about SVD vs. PSL. Regarding accuracy: even though you can find the ROMAK-3 for about a fraction of the price of the genuine Russian SVD, you should buy it. Mine has a Russian military PSO-1 on it and 1PN58 with IR illuminator for night use. I have modified the grip a little and did a trigger job (easy because our service weapons are Sako and Kalashnikov assault rifles which have the same kind of action and trigger assembly).


    Now both of these weapons are equally accurate!!! About 3/4 MOA groups constantly. PERIOD.


    The world of difference is the ammo. Believe me we have tried it all, everything available. And what we use is the Lapua 7,62 x 53R with 148gr D- 47 bullet, which is the thicker version of the D-46 (also 148gr). It is boat-tail MATCH ammo for the old Mosin-Nagant and Finnish equivalents from the WWII- era.

    I don't want you to think I'm biased because the ammo is Finnish too, its simply the most accurate for these weapons. A second choice is the Swedish Norma. The Russian silvertips to my knowledge (and our special forces sniper school's) were never intended to be accurate ammo for SVD and neither is it a match grade ammo for any 7,62 x 54R. Russians simply don't make match ammo for that caliber. It is just better quality normal ammo. (More consistent manufacturing tolerances, better powder and so on). It is somewhat accurate in SVD but not great. Russians have adopted those silvertips for their use because manufacturing match-grade ammo for the SVD would only give marginal results. Big country, big tolerances, you know. The tip is painted silver to recognize it from the other same caliber rounds, especially from WWII- era mass- production ammo. "

    The short of it is that if you feed your PSL garbage ammunition, you get garbage accuracy.
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    is it true that shooting SVT-40's and PSL's over 150gr will ruin the gun? I have seen some posts online that bullets over 150gr can destroy older military guns. Is this true?

    What guns are supposed to shoot what ammo?
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    Ammo makes most all of the difference.
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    "The tip is painted silver to recognize it from the other same caliber rounds, especially from WWII- era mass- production ammo. "


    I guess he doesn't know very much about Russian ammo from this statement! Completely incorrect.
    The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China "promotes human rights now," says Kang Zhongwen , who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the.cheese View Post
    is it true that shooting SVT-40's and PSL's over 150gr will ruin the gun? I have seen some posts online that bullets over 150gr can destroy older military guns. Is this true?

    What guns are supposed to shoot what ammo?
    The machine guns near the bottom of this page shoot the heavy 54r: Wikiwand
    "shall not be infringed."

    Has only one meaning ... can not be restricted in any way. There is no exception clause, just a period.

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    "shall not be infringed."

    Has only one meaning ... can not be restricted in any way. There is no exception clause, just a period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the.cheese View Post
    is it true that shooting SVT-40's and PSL's over 150gr will ruin the gun? I have seen some posts online that bullets over 150gr can destroy older military guns. Is this true?

    What guns are supposed to shoot what ammo?

    SVT40's have an adjustable gas system. No problems shooting heavy ball that I'm aware of.
    The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China "promotes human rights now," says Kang Zhongwen , who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van.

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    In answer to your question: NO. I think Arik in post #2 put it well. Mine will start to string after the third successive shot. For me it just rounds out my Romanian collection. When I bought it they were around $550. I would personally never spend $1,500 for one. SVD is a much better rifle, but the price they command today is very prohibitive.
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    PSL rifles are pretty good shooters. At the current price of $1500 they are over priced IMHO.
    The USA built M76 rifles are far superior. Unfortunately some were not built correctly and suffered from feed & function issues.
    But as a functional DMR it is much superior to a PSL.

    Heaver barrel
    bore centered optics
    adjustable gas system
    longer/better LOP and cheekweld
    superior optic
    milled receiver

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    Keep your eyes peeled and an occasional deal can still be found on them. Here's one that sold on GunBroker a few days ago for less than $900.

    http://www.gunbroker.com/item/621589420

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    I love mine and shoot 147 grain silver stripe Russian surplus ammo with great results 100 to 500 yards it does a great job.
    Mine is a complete Romanian PSL not a parts gun and has the more heavy duty RPK type receiver some of the parts guns will have a std AK receiver . The complete guns will bring a premium especially if you have the original 5 and 10 round mags that are serialized to the gun.
    Mags have been running in the $55.00 range so extra mags will cost you.
    I put a Rhineland Arms tiger maple SVD stock set on it because the std buttstock had a rather short length of pull. The longer RA buttstock is much more comfortable for me.
    Laid on some Russian red stain and shot some clear to seal it.
    Prices have gone up on these because they are not being imported anymore. They can be as low as 1200 and as high as 1800.
    I have 12 mags,sling,2 mag pouches,cleaning kit,folding bi pod and scope cover.
    Mine has the 8X42 Belarus made military scope
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    I love this rifle. They're so freaking cool. I have enough parts to build 3. Just...need...to...find...the...time...

    I think $1500 is high for these, but they sometimes go for $1200 with the scope and mags. That's a good deal.

    I've been monitoring them closely on Gunbroker for a couple of years. Complete rifles never sell for under $1100. And I can't remember the last time one sold for under $1200.
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