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    Authentic Russian Arsenal paint project success, info and pictures

    I will save some of you the the time if you don't care to know the particulars, if you want some PM me your address and I will respond with pp instructions, don't respond to this thread with order requests because this isn't a FS ad. I will make a more official presentation later but a lot of people expressed interest so this is for you guys.

    I have 1.5 liters of high quality Russian Arsenal "Weapon Lacquer" as they call it, available in 100ml quantities @ $50 plus $5 shipping with a limit of 300mL until I make a new batch... shipped each weekend. 100mL will paint 2-3 full firearms depending on if you use an airbrush or a Preval Aerosol sprayer. You will use more product with the Preval but will have nice results.

    The Russian instructions say to let the gun cure for 3 hrs at room temp, but I am going to test it in the oven at 150 degrees later today. This is why I question Voron, the Russians didn't bake on their finishes... if you want good results clean surface with fresh blast/park is necessary.

    This is THE purple inky looking, some refer to it as "squid black" paint you have on your 1983 and 1988 Izhmash AK74 kits. These were new guns so they are the best examples I can use. As the guns heat up and wear in, get oiled up, just like the Russian paint you will get some smoothing of the paint.

    Made to the letter of recipe they use when building weapons. To be clear, the Ukrainians often used the more common "touch up" paint recipe when they Refurbished weapons. This is a much simpler and uglier paint, it is still dark black but it is dry and flat. This is what you see on your refurb AKM's, and the same stuff I got from werewolf in Ukraine. They were supposed to use the recipe I am using but from what I was told by the source of some of my info they didn't because it was time consuming to make.

    The cost of raw materials, translating the Russian literature and the Ukrainian written instructions was not cheap. I am not doing this to compete with anyone, if you want correct Russian paint made with all 6 solvents, correct resins and Russian pigment this is for you.

    Here is my Bulgarian AKS74U with fresh paint and no oil slathered on to make the paint darker. The top/bolt carrier/gas tube/etc have all been subject to magazine dumps, heat and have oil on them. I will oil and snap some pics of the whole thing later today.



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    You won't need to thin the paint, if you absolutely must thin it please don't use MKE, acetone, alcohol etc. I will instruct individuals on thinning as needed. MKE flashes way faster than you think.

    I used a cheap $89.00 air brush from Harbor freight and it was about as professional as it gets. I would really suggest this because you use literally half as much paint and it is so damn simple to apply.


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    Awesome! This will be perfect for my Saiga (Russian RAK) AKM conversion.

    PM'd for my 100ml !!!
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    good timing chris! i think trump will be appointing minister of arsenal finishes this week.
    looking forward to this, thanks for figuring this out.
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    Blast + park then paint FYI.

    The most important picture I posted is the one of the FSB and Tula Booster in direct, 0800 hrs sunlight.

    US paint would be grey looking compared to the booster. Just wait until I photograph this thing with oil on it.

    The werewolf stuff I got was super flat. I think some ppl got a glossier mixture but none of it had enough pigment.

    This stuff is all perfectly semi gloss.


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    Mission accomplished, congratulations Chris! Can't wait to get some of this on a rifle.
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    While my Russian is done and finished, Thank you for footing the bill to figure this out and make it available!

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    color looks right, interesting texture. Hows it hold up to solvent wipe with alcohol or acetone?
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    It holds up just like Russian paint. Same stuff.


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    Authentic Russian Arsenal paint project success, info and pictures

    Real Russian paint doesn't have self leveling additives so you get a bit of texture, it soaked in and mimics the texture of whatever you paint. Look at any Russian parts you have. You may get a smoother finish with a HVLP gun, I used an airbrush so it gets a hair grainy. That was before I baked it because even though it was cured I wanted to subject it to some heat.

    Literally the same stuff Sunspot, 100% the same stuff as any Izzy gun part you have. So if your izzy parts hold up to solvent this will too. I don't use acetone to clean my guns so I am not worried.


    That said, acetone on a rag didn't wipe the paint off but it left a bit of a purple streak. The reason I know the paint is not solvent resistant is:

    1. I have the the instructions on finishing all painted Russian weapons published in the late 70's
    2. the resin listed is what I used
    3. the company I bought my resin from gave me the specs and in the specs it said "resistance to solvents, poor"

    Regardless same stuff, to the letter. Enough about that.
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    Authentic Russian Arsenal paint project success, info and pictures

    Refer to page 46 of Volume 8 in Rob Stott's most recent book. There is a brand new 1989 Izhmash AK74 with the same "Interesting texture" that my gun has. I'm not here to debate, or prove anything. Its hard to prove without either seeing my source of info or the product I am supplying on a gun in front of you.

    If you like what I have done, then I did this for you guys as well as my own collection because I was not going through another nightmare when painting the rest of my guns. I am going to post the last of the bottles left in the marketplace later tonight.


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    Authentic Russian Arsenal paint project success, info and pictures

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    Never thought I'd get even a little excited over *paint* but damn that looks really freaking cool!
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    It actually looks blacker thab the 89. Closer to the tula. Really good work man uve been working hard on this.
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